Rules Clarification : Corrosion      (Edit)

• If you deploy in corrosion hazard terrain (Acid Pool), then you get corroded before the game starts.

Deploying a model in a hazard counts as being "put into play" in the hazard. Being put into play counts as "entering". When you enter a hazard, you trigger the hazard.

• A weapon can inflict continuous corrosion without itself being a corrosion damage weapon (for example, the Acidic Touch animus). In this case, the attack can hurt models with Immunity: Corrosion it just won't apply the continuous effect.

Rules Clarification : Blind      (Edit)

• Blind prevents magic attacks. However spell-casters, spell slaves, etc can still cast non-offensive spells.
• Blind vs Eyeless Sight (Edit)
  • If a model is Blinded, and then given Eyeless Sight, then that model ignores Blind ... but it is technically still Blinded. So if you somehow later lose Eyeless Sight (for instance walking out of the range of Menoth's Sight), it will immediately go back to suffering the effects of Blind. (Infernal Ruling)
  • Also this means stuff that only works vs Blind models (ie Hidden Blade) will still trigger vs a "Was Blinded but then got Eyeless" model.

Rules Clarification : Open Fist  (aka, Power Attack Throw)     (Edit)

• Throw ( Edit )
  • See also the Throw article for a recap of the core Throw rules.
  • If a model is somehow thrown at itself (which can happen with Durst1's feat) it would not move, it would be knocked down, and it would take a standard power attack damage roll but it would not take an additional die for colliding with itself. (Infernal Ruling)
  • Because you move the target model between the attack roll and the damage roll, you can get different buffs applied to the two rolls. For instance, if you throw the target in or out of a Flanking model's melee range.

• Incorporeal vs Slammed/Thrown models ( Edit )
  • Incorporeal models cannot be moved by someone trying to slam them.
  • Slammed models can move through Incorporeal models.
    • If they have enough movement to get past them, no dramas.
    • If they land on them, you move the Incorporeal model out of the way as per the Rule of Least Disturbance.
    • If the Incorporeal model cannot be moved (i.e. it's a flag) then you move the slammed model out of the way, also by the rule of Least Disturbance.
    • For the purposes of Collateral Damage, only the model(s) you contacted before you applied the rule of Least Disturbance count as contacted.
  • The same logic applies to Throws.

• Collateral Damage
  • Collateral damage cannot be boosted and is not considered damage from an attack or model. Refer page 33 of the 2021.08 version of the rules pdf. As a result:
    • It doesn't trigger stuff that relies on being hit by an enemy (such as Shock Field) or damaged by an enemy (such as Vengeance).
    • It doesn't get bonus damage from stuff that adds to a model's damage roll (such as Signs & Portents or Prey).
    • It doesn't matter if the attacker has crippled weapon systems or aspects.
• Throw - Power Attack
  • When you make a Throw Power Attack, no other abilities of the Fist weapon (such as Chain Strike) are applied unless they specifically mention Throws. (Locked Thread)
  • If you do a Power Attack Throw and you choose to throw the target directly away, no deviation is rolled to determine the final position of the model. (Locked thread)
  • A model that cannot be targeted by melee attacks (such as Una2's feat) cannot have models thrown at them, either. (Infernal Ruling)
  • Since throwing Model [A] at Model [B] involves making a melee attack roll vs Model [B] which is out of your melee range, it technically breaks a whole bunch of core rules. (Infernal Checking)
  • Even though you make a "melee attack roll" vs Model [B] you don't actually make a melee attack vs it. Also, the damage it suffers is from Collateral damage, not from the original attack. So you can't trigger stuff like Snacking from damage you did to Model B.

Rules Clarification : Chain Strike and/or Lunge     (Edit)

• The extra melee range kicks in the instant you start your activation, and if that makes you engage an enemy then it means you can't aim.
• The extra range does apply during Frenzies (because that is defined as an activation)
• The extra range doesn't apply during free strikes or when your opponent takes control of your model.
• It doesn't increase the range of Power Attacks, because you do not apply weapon special rules to Power Attacks (unless they specifically reference Power Attacks, like Hard Head does). (Locked Thread)
• If you're affected by another range-altering rule (such as Jakes2's feat) then that won't override Chain Strike. (Infernal Ruling)

Rules Clarification : Warjack      (Edit)

• The Cortex/Induction core rule means a warjack cannot have more than 3 focus at any time (maybe 4 if they're really special).
  • Many abilities give out focus and don't state an upper limit (such as Convection and Empower). Despite not stating an upper limit, they are always "hard-limited" by the core rule.
  • A warjack can have more than 3 focus during a turn, though. For instance, a knocked down warjack can Power Up and be Allocated 2 focus, then spend 1 to shake knockdown, then another model could Empower it back up to 3.
• Warjacks cannot spend focus outside of their activation. For instance, they can't boost free strikes or trigger Powerful Attack on Broadsides. (Infernal Ruling)

Inert warjacks

• Abilities that say they cannot be used if the model is stationary (such as Shield Guard) cannot be used while a warjack is inert, either. Refer "Warcaster Destruction", page 59 of the core rulebook.

Rules Clarification : Pathfinder      (Edit)

• Pathfinder (Edit) - Pathfinder does not apply to involuntary movement (pushes & slams). (Infernal Ruling)

Rules Clarification : Acid Cloud      (Edit)

• If Kharybdis moves, the cloud remains where it is.
• When a 4" template is centred on a 50mm base, it extends 1.02" beyond the edge of the base.

Rules Clarification : Bond      (Edit)

• Bonds are ineffective while the model is under your opponent's control. Refer the core rulebook.
• Bonds & Themes
  • If a warjack/warbeast with a bond is in that caster's battlegroup, they can be taken in any theme force. Refer the core rulebook.
  • This is true even if the caster isn't a full warcaster or warlock (this interaction changed as of 2018.06).

Rules Clarification : Prowl and/or Just a Tree?     (Edit)

• Whether you can trigger this ability is a bit awkward;
  • As long as you have concealment you get Stealth ... even if the attacker ignores concealment (such as with Hunter).
  • If you're standing in a cloud, and the attacker "ignores clouds for LOS" (such as Bird's Eye) you get Prowl/Tree.
  • If you're standing in a cloud, and the attacker "ignores clouds completely" (such as Alchemical Mask) you don't get it. (Infernal Ruling)
  • Similar for standing in a forest.

• If a debuff removes Stealth, Prowl/Tree do not reapply stealth... But this ruling is being rechecked. (Infernal Checking)

Rules Clarification : Stealth      (Edit) Stealth models are not invisible and you can target them - you'll just auto-miss most of the time. You can target them with a charge. You can target them with an AOE, have it auto-miss and scatter, luckily land on top of them anyway, and that will hit them.

Rules Clarification : Steady      (Edit)

• If you are hit by a knockdown effect during your own turn then ... nothing happens. Unless it was a Slam or a Throw that knocked you down.
  In that situation, there is a core rule that says "models immune to knockdown that become knocked down from a slam or throw must forfeit either movement or action when they activate". But that core rule doesn't apply to other knockdowns (lots of players assume it does)
• Steady models are still susceptible to other effects of knock-down attacks (if there are any). For instance, a Head Butt attack causes damage and knockdown - a Steady model would still take the damage.
• A knocked down model that gains Steady will remain knocked down, because the "cannot be knocked down" is not retroactively applied.
• Steady models who make a tough check during an advance can continue advancing. (Locked Thread)