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Bane Knights
Cryx Unit
Officer
Command Attachment

Accompanied by an icy wind and a charnel smell, bane knights glide across the battlefield sowing blood and death. These fiends wield their shadow-forged lances with inhuman precision, cutting down any obstacles in their path. Adding to their implacable advance, bane knights can become fully spectral for short periods of time, allowing them to pass through any barrier to reach their victims.

Lost for an eternity in the shapeless void between Caen and Urcaen, all banes have their sanity shredded to madness, yet some few retain scraps of their minds. Great warlords or ancient military officers with strong will might retain the instincts that made them effective leaders in battle. They carry that forward into their unholy existence. Under the direction of these greater knights of shadow, banes demonstrate sophisticated tactics, moving in disciplined formations and proving considerably more formidable than is regularly the case.

Basic Info

Bane Knights
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Unit / Officer
BASE Small
SPD 5
STR 7
MAT 6 / 7
RAT N/A
M.A. N/A
DEF 12
ARM 16
CMD 7 / 8
ESSENCE {{{essence}}}
FOCUS N/A
FURY N/A
THRS N/A
HP 1 / 5
F. Field N/A
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IHP {{{ihp}}}
FA U
UNIT SIZE 6 or 10 +1 CA
COST 9 or 15 +4 CA
1.7 pts each
N/A
N/A
Warcaster 1
COST N/A
N/A
Understanding
the Statblock

Abilities

  • Entire unit
    • Undead symbol.jpg Undead
    • Ghostly - This model can advance through terrain and obstacles without penalty and can advance through obstructions if it has enough movement to move completely past them. It cannot be targeted by free strikes.
    • Set Defense - A model in this model's front arc suffers -2 on charge, slam power attack, and impact attack rolls against this model.
    • Wall of Steel - While this model is B2B with one or more models in its unit, it gains +2 ARM.
  • Officer only
    • He has a better statline
    • Officer symbol.jpg Officer
    • Granted: Reposition [3"] - While this model is in formation, models in its unit gain Reposition [3"]. (Reposition [3"] - At the end of an activation in which it did not run or fail a charge, this model can advance up to 3", then its activation ends.)
    • Granted: Touch of the Grave - While this model is in formation, models in its unit gain Touch of the Grave. (Touch of the Grave - Models destroyed by a melee attack made by this model are RFP'd.)
    • Serpent's Coil [ Minifeat ] - Once per game at any time during it unit's activation, this model can use Serpent's Coil. For one round, models in this unit gain Defensive Strike. (Defensive Strike - Once per turn, when an enemy advances into and ends its movement in this model's melee range, this model can immediately make one basic melee attack against it.)
    • Tactics: Coordinated Movement - Models in this unit gain Coordinated Movement. (Coordinated Movement - Friendly models can ignore this model when determining LOS and can advance through this model if they have enough movement to move completely past it.)

Weapons

  • Entire unit
    • Bane Lance - 2" reach, POW 5, P+S 12 melee weapon
      • Brutal Charge - This model gains +2 to charge attack damage rolls with this weapon.

Theme Forces

Recent Changes

No changes since 2019.02

Thoughts on Bane Knights

Command Attachment

Bane Knights in a nutshell

Bane Knights are a defensive unit, able to shrug off blasts and small arms fire with ease, and when in melee Set Defense makes them relatively hard to hit. The Knights differentiate themselves from other Faction's equivalent defensive units thanks to Ghostly, which allows them to disengage from troops they don't like and sometimes lets them declare 3" charges even after battlelines have clashed.

Their raw damage output isn't as high as the Bane Warriors or Bane Riders, but if they can declare a charge they can still hit almost as hard as Bane Warriors and put the harm on enemy heavies, especially with some helping debuffs. They've slightly more threat range than the Warriors thanks to 2" reach, but slower than the Riders. They're cheaper than either of the others.

Since their role change in 2017, they present a new option for Cryx players: an ARM-skew. Wall of Steel, plus a Wraith Engine's buff, plus an ARM buff from your caster can put them up to DEF 12 ARM 22 vs magic & shooting, and DEF 14 ARM 20 vs models that charge them.

Thoughts on the CA

The Bane Knight Officer is just that - a commander for Bane Knights. He makes them better, but doesn't drastically change their role or competitiveness. If you already like Bane Knights then you'll want to get the Officer. If you didn't, you won't.

Combos & Synergies

Non-caster

Casters

  • Lich Lord Terminus gives them Tough which is really useful for a unit that relies on ARM skew to survive.
  • Asphyxious3
    • Can give them Ashen Veil pushing them up to DEF 16 vs living chargers,
    • In the Dark Host theme Ashen Veil also grants them Stealth.
    • He can debuff the enemy with Calamity, making them hit quite hard.
  • Coven can help them charge through the enemy with Curse of Shadows and/or Veil of Mists, to ensure they always get Brutal Damage. Curse of Shadows increases their damage output. Their feat can keep them alive until battlelines engage.
  • Scaverous can buff their ARM with Death Ward, has several debuffs to increase their accuracy/damage, and can quasi-speed buff them with Telekinesis.

Drawbacks & Downsides

  • Banes Knights are not terribly offensive, except on the charge. A single attack at MAT 6, P+S 12 is not a good option to skirmish with infantry.
  • They're slow, with a base threat range of only 10". So they're likely to take the alpha strike in most games.
  • Wall of Steel can be difficult to achieve every turn, especially if you want to charge multiple targets. It can also be "picked apart" if you line them up in a line, so that the second or third model getting shot isn't getting the bonus.
  • Anything which ignores ARM and does an auto-point of damage (such as Sniper and Continuous Corrosion) will give them a bad day.
  • Hazards can really mess them up, because you can't be in B2B while you advance through it.

Tricks & Tips

  • Use the "Dragon Tooth" formation: 3 Knights arranged in a triangle in B2B. That way your opponent has to kill 2 of them before any lose the Wall of Steel bonus.
  • Touch of the Grave does not stop soul & corpse token generation. Really all it does is stop Return to Play abilities.
  • If you're looking for the Officer's card on the card database, you'll find it under "Battle Engines & Structures".

Other

Trivia

Other Cryx models

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Battlegroup & Similar
Warcasters

Agathia - Aiakos2 - Asphyxious1 - Asphyxious2 - Asphyxious3 - Coven - Deneghra1 - Deneghra2 - Deneghra3 - Goreshade1 - Goreshade2 - Goreshade3 - Mortenebra1 - Mortenebra2 - Rahera - Scaverous - Skarre1 - Skarre2 - Skarre3 - Sturgis2 - Terminus - Venethrax

Warcaster attachments

The Withershadow Combine - Satyxis Blood Priestess - Skarlock Thrall - Doctor Stygius (Partisan) - Madelyn Corbeau (Mercenary)

Other Warjack Controllers

Jack Marshals: Iron Lich Overseer       "Junior Warcasters": Aiakos1 - Asphyxious4 - Deneghra0

Light

Cankerworm - Deathripper - Defiler - Helldiver - Nightwretch - Ripjaw - Scavenger - Shrike - Stalker

Heavy

Barathrum - Corruptor - Deathjack - Desecrator - Erebus - Harrower - Kharybdis - Inflictor - Leviathan - Malice - Nightmare - Reaper - Seether - Slayer

Colossal Kraken - Sepulcher
Units, Solos, Battle Engines, & Structures
Units

Asphyxious4 - Bane Knights - Bane Riders - Bane Warriors - Bile Thralls - BO Boarding Party - BO Ironmongers - BO Smog Belchers - Bloodgorgers - Marauders - Carrion Thralls - Cephalyx Drudges - Cephalyx Overlords - Mechanithralls - Necrosurgeon - Revenant Cannon - Revenant Crew - Satyxis Gunslingers - Satyxis Blood Witches - Satyxis Raiders - Scharde Dirge Seers - Scharde Pirates - Soulhunters - The Devil's Shadow Mutineers - The Withershadow Combine

Solos

Aiakos1 - Agrimony - Axiara - Bane Lord Tartarus - Bloat Thrall - BTO Mobius - Captain Rengrave - Darragh Wrathe - Doctor Stygius - Deneghra0 - Gerlak - Hellslinger - Iron Lich Overseer - Machine Wraith - Master Gurglepox - Misery Cage - Necrotech - Pistol Wraith - Satyxis Blood Priestess - Satyxis Raider Captain - Scrap Thrall - Skarlock Thrall - Severa Blacktide - Soul Trapper - Warwitch Siren

Battle Engines & Structures Wraith Engine
Theme Forces
Black Industries - Dark Host - The Ghost Fleet - Scourge of the Broken Coast
Mercenaries
Refer to Who Works for Whom and/or Category: Cryx Mercenary
This index was last updated: 2020.03

Rules Clarifications

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Rules Clarification : Powerful Charge  and/or Brutal Charge     (Edit)

  • If you declare a charge but move less than 3", then the attack doesn't count as a "Charge Attack" and you won't get the bonus.

Rules Clarification : Undead - None yet. (Edit)

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Rules Clarification : Ghostly      (Edit)

  • Ghostly doesn't let you move through other models, just terrain.
  • Ghostly doesn't let you ignore damage from hazardous terrain. (Infernal Ruling)

Rules Clarification : Set Defense - None yet. (Edit)

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Rules Clarification : Wall of Steel      (Edit)

  • If you're slammed or thrown into a model with Wall of Steel, you'll immediately benefit. So you'll get the ARM bonus vs the slam/throw damage, too!
  • It's not possible to be B2B with someone at the same time you move, so you can't gain Wall of Steel at the same time you enter a damaging template (such as Covering Fire).
    • No, you cannot move an infinitely small distance and thus travel in an arc. This is Warmachine, not calculus.
    • However, if you can move through a model, ignore the above.


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Rules Clarification : Officer      (Edit)

  • Even if they're not on the Officer's card, an Officer can give (and benefit from) any non-standard orders that are on the unit's card (such as Shield Wall). Refer main rulebook.
  • When the Officer dies, the Leader model becomes the new Unit Commander (you don't get to choose).
  • But if your unit doesn't include a Leader model, then you do get to choose any of the remaining models to be the new Unit Commander. You don't swap the model, but it may be worth putting a token down so you can tell that grunt apart.
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Rules Clarification : Tactics vs Granted     (Edit)

  • Granted = The unit loses the ability as soon as the model that grants it is taken off the table. (think "G for Goes away")
  • Tactics = The unit keeps the ability for the entire game, regardless of who dies. (think "Tac-Tick = K for Keeps")
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Rules Clarification : Reposition      (Edit)

  • Models out of formation cannot move via Reposition. Refer to the "Out of Formation" rules in the core rulebook.
  • End of Activation (Edit)
    • Some end-of-activation abilities explicitly state your activation ends as part of resolving the ability, and some don't. Either way, you can never do anything extra during or after triggering an end-of-activation ability. You cannot cast spells, purchase additional attacks, use a mini-feat, etc.
    • If you start resolving an end-of-activation-movement (such as Reposition) then you cannot trigger abilities that occur "at any time" (such as Go To Ground). Because you can't trigger it while moving, and after moving your activation has ended. (Infernal Ruling)
    • For units: if any model in the unit starts resolving the unit's end-of-activation-movement, then no model in the unit can trigger an any-time ability. (Infernal Ruling)
    • If you have more than one end-of-activation ability, you have to choose which one to resolve, then your activation ends and you cannot use the other one.
    • See also the training article: LPG - End of Activation.
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Rules Clarification : Touch of the Grave      (Edit)

  • Touch of the Grave does not prevent corpse/soul tokens.
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Rules Clarification : Serpent's Coil      (Edit)

  • Restrictions on "Any Time" abilities     (Edit)         [Show/Hide]
    • "Any Time" abilities can be used at any time during a model/unit's activation, except:
    1. Before any compulsory forfeiture of movement/action. See step 2 of the activation sequence, appendix A.
    2. After the model with the "Any Time" ability has had their activation end "prematurely". By this I mean you resolved something which includes the phrase "its activation ends". Examples include:
      • Running, failing a charge, or failing a slam.
      • Abilities that include "then its activation ends" (such as Reposition and Teleport).
    3. In between declaring your charge target and making your charge movement. (Infernal Ruling)
    4. In between completing your charge movement and determining whether it was a successful charge. (Infernal Ruling)
    5. When you're in the middle of moving. (Note: Impact Attacks count as being in the middle of movement).
    6. When you're in the middle of an attack. Which also includes effects that occur "after the attack is resolved".
      (Although the attack is "resolved" at Step 11, in terms of using an "Any Time" ability the attack is not "finished" until after Step 14. Refer to the first paragraph of Apdx A.)
    7. Your opponent interrupted your activation to trigger one of their own abilities (such as Countercharge).
    8. Warcasters/warlocks/etc can normally cast a spell or use their feat "At any time". However, there is a core rule saying they cannot do so on the same activation that they run. So, they are subject to all the same restrictions listed above, plus they can't cast/feat before running.
    9. Units: See below.

    • In general you can use "Any Time" abilities while you're knocked down or stationary (except Spells and Feats which specify you can't).
    • If you have a gun with a random ROF, you can use an "Any Time" ability inbetween rolling the number of shots and actually making the first attack. (Infernal Ruling)

    Units with "Any Time" abilities
    • You cannot use an "Any Time" ability before issuing/receiving orders. See step 1 and 2 of the activation sequence, appendix A.
    • A model in a unit can't use an "Any Time" ability after they run (Infernal Ruling) or fail a charge. Because that makes that specific model's activation to end even though the unit's activation is still ongoing, and you can't use abilities on models that are not active.
      • You can use an "Any Time" ability before running, however.
    • A model in a unit can't use an "Any Time" ability after anyone in the unit has begun a Reposition move. (Infernal Ruling)
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Rules Clarification : Defensive Strike      (Edit)

  • If an enemy doesn't stop in your melee range, but continue all the way through it and out the other side, you won't get to make a Defensive Strike.
    You will get to make a free strike as per normal, though.
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Rules Clarification : Coordinated Movement      (Edit)

  • The "can ignore for LOS" is not optional. You cannot opt to "turn off" your ability to see through models, in the hope of getting a free strike or some such. (Infernal Ruling)


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