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* Stats-wise they are among the weakest Khador units - meaning, they are very low on the target-priority list. Any shot that falls upon them will be spared from your more valuable units.
 
* Stats-wise they are among the weakest Khador units - meaning, they are very low on the target-priority list. Any shot that falls upon them will be spared from your more valuable units.
 
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* you have a 19 inch threat range with the guns on the turn that you ambush. Sometimes it’s worth waiting an extra turn just to make sure you can get
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Into back strike range and shoot some support models
  
 
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Revision as of 23:29, 8 September 2020

Khador Logo.jpg Kossite Woodsmen

Khador Unit

It is the law of Khador that all citizens must serve in the military, and the Kossite clans of the far north are no exception. Despite their motley appearance and simple weapons, the Kossite woodsmen are fierce warriors. They wait in ambush with the patience and instincts of a hunter, and strike at the perfect moment to kill key assets or crumble the enemy’s flank.

Basic Info

Kossite Woodsmen
Missing Info
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UNIT SIZE {{{casize}}}
FA {{{cafa}}}
Warcaster 0
BASE Small
SPD 6
STR
MAT 5
RAT 4
M.A. N/A
DEF 13
ARM 11
CMD 7
ESSENCE {{{essence}}}
FOCUS N/A
FURY N/A
THRS N/A
HP 1
F. Field N/A
WJP {{{wjp}}}
WBP {{{wbp}}}
IHP {{{ihp}}}
FA 2
UNIT SIZE 6 / 10
COST 6 / 10
1.0 each
N/A
N/A
Warcaster 1
COST N/A
N/A
Understanding
the Statblock

Abilities

  • AD symbol.jpg Advance Deployment
  • Pathfinder symbol.jpg Pathfinder
  • Ambush - You can choose not to deploy this unit at the start of the game. If it is not deployed normally, you can put it into play at the end of any of your Control Phases after your first turn. When you do, choose any table edge except the back of your opponent's deployment zone. Place all models in the unit in formation completely within 3" of the chosen table edge.
  • Prowl - While this model has concealment, it gains stealth.

Weapons

  • Hunter's Weapon - 10" range, POW 10 ranged weapon.
  • Hand Weapon - 0.5" reach, P+S 8 melee weapon.

Theme Forces

Recent Changes

2019.07 Oblivion update

  • Points drop to 6/10 (from 7/11)


Thoughts on Kossite Woodsmen

Kossite Woodsmen in a nutshell

Kossite Woodsmen are militia. They don't have much in terms of stats or weapons, but they are cheap. In Mk2 they were mostly presented only in fun games. After some (well deserved) stat improvements and general change in the gameplay after the Oblivion CID... they may actually find their way into your lists.

They can amend the inherent weakness of the jack-heavy lists by scoring in circular zones, and thanks to Ambush they may do it early on. Ambush allows you some tricky scenario play - even more so in scenarios with far-flung zones, where your battlegroup and caster can't be everywhere at once. However, when it comes to fight, yiur expectations should be harnessed. With their sub-par RAT/MAT they won't hit too often (even with the back strike bonus), and the meagre strength of their weapons make it unlikely that they'll cause anything beyond some minor annoyance. They can run up to 15" on their arriving turn, contest a flag or a zone for a turn, might catch some unguarded artillery pieces, but don't expect much beyond that.

This theme also offers excellent, self-sufficient troops in the "non-warjack" compartment, like the Widowmaker Scouts or the Kayazy Eliminators, the latter being some of the best free-card here. Still, they are pretty low on the target priority list, so either they live to score/contest, or the enemy wastes resources on them, sparing your more valuable assets.

Combos & Synergies

  • Anyone who can conceal these guys. Most notably Sorscha1 pr Sorscha0 with Fog of War or the steam patches of the Kodiak, coupled with Harkevich's Reposition Field Marshal
  • Malakov2 can give them backstab (useful on ambushers if he plays forward. He also has veil of mists for prowl and tactical supremacy which is useful on anyone who wants to shoot
  • models that can inflict stationary or reliably knockdown targets make up for the Kossite’s low Mat and Rat - Again looking at Sorcha1
  • Yuri the Axe - Gives them a buff in forests, and most importantly, Treewalker to discharge their guns from the cover of forest patches.

Drawbacks & Downsides

  • Treewalker from Yuri is worthless, if there are no forests around.
  • Once the enemy gets bead on them, they'll die in no time. And for some armies they are just cheap corpse/soul token.

Tricks & Tips

  • Stats-wise they are among the weakest Khador units - meaning, they are very low on the target-priority list. Any shot that falls upon them will be spared from your more valuable units.
  • you have a 19 inch threat range with the guns on the turn that you ambush. Sometimes it’s worth waiting an extra turn just to make sure you can get

Into back strike range and shoot some support models

Other

Trivia

Released in Warmachine: Escalation (2004)

Other Khador models

Khador Logo.jpg       Khador Index       (Edit)
Battlegroup & Similar
Warcasters

Butcher1 - Butcher2 - Butcher3 - Harkevich - Irusk1 - Irusk2 - Karchev1 - Karchev2 - Kozlov - Malakov2 - Old Witch1 - Old Witch2 - Sorscha1 - Sorscha2 - Sorscha3 - Strakhov1 - Strakhov2 - Vlad1 - Vlad2 - Vlad3 - Zerkova1 - Zerkova2

Warcaster attachments

Khador: War Dog - Greylord Adjunct
Mercenary: Madelyn Corbeau - Reinholdt - Wyshnalyrr

Other Warjack Controllers

"Junior" Warcasters: Malakov1 - Sorscha0
'Jack Marshals: Man-o-War Kovnik - Greylord Forge Seer

Heavy Warjacks

Beast-09 - Behemoth - Berserker - Black Ivan - Decimator - Demolisher - Destroyer - Devastator - Drago - Grolar - Juggernaut - Kodiak - Mad Dog - Marauder - Rager - Ruin - Spriggan - Torch

Colossal Conquest - Victor
Units, Solos, & Battle Engines
Units

Assault Kommandos - Battle Mechaniks - Black Dragons - Doom Reaver Swordsmen - Great Bears of the Gallowswood - Greylord Outriders - Greylord Ternion - Iron Fang Pikemen - Iron Fang Uhlans - Kayazy Assassins - Kayazy Eliminators - Kossite Woodsmen - MOW Atanas & Standard - MOW Bombardiers - MOW Demolition Corps - MOW Shocktroopers - Widowmaker Scouts - WG Field Gun - WG Infantry - WG Mortar Crew - WG Rifle Corps
Ranking Officer CA : Koldun Kapitan Valachev

Solos

Bulkhead - Fenris - Greylord Adjunct - Greylord Forge Seer - Iron Fang Kovnik - Jozef - Koldun Lord - Malakov1 - Manhunter - MOW Drakhun - MOW Kovnik - MOW Strike Tanker - MOW Suppresion Tanker - Markov - Sofya - Sorscha0 - Ol' Grim - Underboss Vizkoya - War Dog - Widowmaker Marksman - WG Artillery Kapitan - Yuri1 - Yuri2

Battle Engines Gun Carriage - Man-o-War Siege Chariot - Man-o-War Assault Chariot
Theme Forces
Armored Korps - Flame in the Darkness - Jaws of the Wolf - Legions of Steel - Warriors of the Old Faith - Winter Guard Kommand - Wolves of Winter
Mercenaries
Refer to Who Works for Whom and/or Category: Khador Mercenary
This index was last updated: 2021.11

Rules Clarifications

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Rules Clarification : Advance Deployment + Ambush

  • These two abilities do not stack with each other. You need to choose either Ambush or Advance Deployment
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Rules Clarification : Advance Deployment      (Edit)

  • Sometimes you can attach a WA or CA that doesn't have AD to a unit that does have AD. If you do, the attachment effectively gains AD and they can all advance deploy together. (Locked Thread)
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Rules Clarification : Pathfinder      (Edit)

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Rules Clarification : Ambush      (Edit)

  • If you attach a WA or CA to this unit, and the attachment doesn't have Ambush, then they all get to Ambush anyway. (Locked Thread)
  • Ambush and Apparition both occur at Step 5 of the Control Phase. However, Ambush specifies the "end" of the Control Phase so you cannot use Apparition on a model that Ambushes. (Infernal Ruling)
  • Declaring Ambush:
    • Choosing whether a unit deploys normally or ambushes needs to happen before deployment.
    So it goes: do the starting roll, Player 2 chooses sides, Player 1 declares Ambushes (if any), then Player 2 declares Ambushes (if any), then Player 1 starts deployment. (Infernal Ruling)
    • If you have both Prey and Ambush, then you declare your Prey target at the normal time (even though the Prey-er isn't currently on the table). (Infernal Ruling)
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Rules Clarification : Prowl and/or Just a Tree?     (Edit)

  • Whether you can trigger this ability is a bit awkward;
    • As long as you have concealment you get Stealth ... even if the attacker ignores concealment (such as with Hunter).
    • If you're standing in a cloud, and the attacker "ignores clouds for LOS" (such as Bird's Eye) you get Prowl/Tree.
    • If you're standing in a cloud, and the attacker "ignores clouds completely" (such as Alchemical Mask) you don't get it. (Infernal Ruling)
    • Similar for standing in a forest.
  • If a debuff removes Stealth, Prowl/Tree do not reapply stealth... But this ruling is being rechecked. (Infernal Checking)
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Rules Clarification : Stealth      (Edit)

  • Stealth models are not invisible and you can target them - you'll just auto-miss most of the time.
  • You can target them with a charge.
  • You can target them with an AOE, have it auto-miss and scatter, luckily land on top of them anyway, and that will hit them.