Thamarite Advocate

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Thamarite Advocate Mercenary, & Minion, Thamarite Solo

Mark IV Status: Limbo - This model has not (yet) been updated with Mk IV rules, as of 2022.12. Privateer Press have promised it will get updated ... eventually. You can view the Mk3 models that have been updated on this page. Note that the rest of this page is about the model's Mark III rules.

The Thamarite Advocates are peerless masters of the forbidden arts who have dedicated themselves to the destruction of the infernals and the protection of humanity.

Basic Info

Thamarite Advocate
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Mercenary - This model will work for Crucible Guard, Cygnar, or Khador.

Minion - This model will work for Circle.

Abilities

• Blessed of Thamar - When this model is destroyed by an enemy attack, each Infernal model in its command range loses 1 essence point.
• Cult of Thamar - This model can be included in any army that also includes a Thamarite warcaster model, regardless of theme force restrictions. This model is considered to be the same Factions as each friendly Thamrarite warcaster model.
• Magic Ability [ 7 ] - This model can cast spells. Normally this uses up the model's Combat Action and as such is limited to one spell per activation, but exceptions do exist.
• Reposition [3"] - At the end of an activation in which it did not run or fail a charge, this model can advance up to 3", then its activation ends.
• Sucker! - If this model is directly hit by an enemy ranged attack, choose a friendly non-incorporeal warrior model within 3" of it to be directly hit instead. That model is automatically hit and suffers all damage and effects.

Weapons

• Unarmed - This model has no weapons.

Spells

	COST	RNG	AOE	POW	DUR	OFF
Hex Bolt	(★ Attack)	6	-	13	Round	Yes
Models hit cannot make special actions, special attacks, or power attacks for one round
Knowledge	(★ Action)	CMD	-	-	-	No
Target friendly model. If the model is in range, it can reroll one failed magic attack roll this turn.
Power	(★ Action)	5	-	-	-	No
Target Friendly model in a battlegroup controlled by a Thamarite model. If the model is in range it gains 1 focus point. A model can be targeted by Power only once per turn.

Theme Forces

• Mercenary
  • Flame in the Darkness

• Minions
  • Will Work for Food

• Thamarite Warcasters
  • Crosse2 (Mercenary)
  • Fiona (Mercenary)
  • Zerkova (Khador)

• Other Factions
  • Cygnar and Khador players can use this model in the Flame in the Darkness theme.
  • Furthermore, Mercenary/Minion models can be hired by other Factions. Normally those Factions' themes will have a limit on how many models they can hire. Refer to #Other Theme Forces, below.

Thoughts on Thamarite Advocate

Thamarite Advocate in a nutshell

The Thamarite Advocate is a cheap, accessible wizard option with some useful spellslinging. At only three points, she slips into a variety of lists who are looking for a cheap, useful magic piece that brings some decent damage with Hex Bolt, or useful tools like Knowledge. Reposition lets her get in-and-out pretty painlessly, and Sucker! keeps them alive when the going gets tough.

Combos & Synergies

• Flame in the Darkness - this theme lets you take two as a single requisition option. It also gives units Vengeance as per its theme benefit, so you can Sucker! into unit members to get an extra 3" of threat range on them.
• Zerkova1 - As an offensive spellcaster she loves Knowledge and an extra focus from Power. Having her jack fueled also leaves her more focus to cast. They are pretty much joined at the hip to her in any theme.
• Zerkova2 lets her run and cast Hex Bolt for some much needed extra threat range. Or walk and cast twice. With Sacrificial Lamb, that's a lot of focus for her jacks.
• Fiona the Black - Is very much the same as Zerkova1.
• Crosse2 - He has no focus to spare for his jacks, so Power is immensely useful to him. If he also has Reinholdt attached, you can give him n extra attack for basically free, if yu use the focus point from Knowledge for Reload.
• Steelhead Arcanist, Powder Monkey, Greylord Forge Seer - They all have the Empower rule, so after Power Up and Power, these model can supply the last focus point to a jack controlled by a Thamarite.
• Hermit - Telemetry for a more accurate Hex Bolt, or to seriously increase the hit chances on what ever model you put Knowledge on.
• Any model with an offensive spell you want to land. Notable models include:
  • Krueger2, Sturm & Drang, Haley2, Lukas for Telekinesis.
  • Gastone Crosse, Malakov2 for Discombobulate
  • Greylord models in Wolves of Winter

Drawbacks & Downsides

• Squishy
• Low threat range puts them on the front lines

Other

Trivia

Released 2020.01

Other Theme Forces

Crucible Guard (Edit)

• Magnum Opus

Cygnar (Edit)

• Gravediggers
• Heavy Metal
• Sons of the Tempest
• Storm Division

Khador (Edit)

• Armored Korps
• Jaws of the Wolf
• Legion of Steel
• Winter Guard Kommand

Circle Orboros (Edit)

• Secret Masters. This theme doesn't have a limit on how many Minion solos you can take. Also, you can spend Requistion Points on Minion solos.
• The Bones of Orboros
• The Devourer's Host
• The Wild Hunt

Rules Clarifications

Rules Clarification : Blessed of Thamar - None yet. (Edit)
Rules Clarification : Cult of Thamar - None yet. (Edit)

Rules Clarification : Magic Ability      (Edit) Using a Magic Ability counts as a spell, for effects such as Spell Ward, Witch Hunter, etc. Combat Action Nearly all Magic Ability spells require the spellcaster to use their Combat Action to cast the spell. As such it is not an "at any time" ability (like it is when warcasters/warlocks cast spells). This means ... You must complete your movement before you use a MA. A model in a unit cannot use its Combat Action to cast a spell until all members of the unit have completed their movement. (Infernal Ruling) You cannot make initial ranged or initial melee attacks on the same turn you use a MA. You cannot buy additional melee/ranged attacks after using a MA special attack. Refer to the core rulebook, "Special attacks listed as a rule of the model itself are neither melee attacks nor ranged attacks. The rules for these special attacks indicate the nature of any additional attacks that can be made afterward, if any." You cannot use a MA on the same turn you charge. Because a charge must (almost always) be followed by a melee attack. Non-Combat Action There are a few models that can use a Magic Ability without using their Combat Action. These models get around all the restrictions listed above. Models with Geomancy or Necromancy can use a Magic Ability at "any time" just like a warcaster/warlock. Models with Battle Wizard or Necrophage can make melee attacks then get a bonus "free" spell. Models with Combat Caster can cast a spell before charging, then do a normal charge + melee attack. Note that Battle Wizards, Combat Casters, etc have the option to use their Combat Action to cast a spell. Their special rule is in addition to the normal spell casting, not instead of.

Rules Clarification : Reposition      (Edit) Models out of formation cannot move via Reposition. Refer to the "Out of Formation" rules in the core rulebook. End of Activation (Edit) You cannot resolve two end-of-activation movement effects (refer to "End of Activation Movement" in the core rulebook). For EOA stuff that doesn't involve movement, though, it gets a bit more murky: Some EOA abilities explicitly state your activation ends as part of resolving the ability (like Reposition), and some don't (like Refuge). Whether it is explicit it or not, by definition an EOA ability is the last thing you can do for that activation. For instance, if you resolve Refuge and then continue your activation to cast more spells, then you have not used Refuge at the end of your activation. You cannot do an "at any time" ability during or after triggering an EOA ability; you cannot cast spells, purchase additional attacks, use a mini-feat, etc. If you start resolving an EOA movement (such as Reposition) then you cannot trigger abilities that occur "at any time" (such as Go To Ground). Because you can't trigger it while resolving the EOA movement, and after the EOA movement your activation has ended. (Infernal Ruling) For units: if any model in the unit starts resolving the unit's EOA movement, then no model in the unit can trigger an any-time ability. (Infernal Ruling) See also the training article: LPG - End of Activation.

Rules Clarification:  : Sacrificial Pawn and/or Sucker! and/or Grim Salvation     (Edit) (Click Expand to read)

Differences Sacrificial Pawn is optional. Grim Salvation and Sucker are not optional. Grim Salvation only works vs basic attacks, not special attacks, power attacks, chain attacks. Spells are not basic attacks, because they are not "made with a weapon". (Infernal Ruling) CRA and CMA are basic attacks. (Infernal Ruling) If a Special Attack generates an additional attack (such as Multi-Fire), the second attack will be basic and as such can have Grim Salvation used vs it. (Infernal Ruling) Sacrificial Pawn & Sucker! don't work against melee attacks. None of them work vs magic attacks (spells). All of them work against Magical Ranged attacks, though. The model the attack is transferred to is always hit, even if they have an ability that makes them automatically get missed (such as Stealth). Automatically missing is determined earlier in the timing sequence than when the attack is moved. (Infernal Ruling) From here down, the terms Sacrificial Pawn, Grim Salvation, and Sucker! are interchangeable Using Sac Pawn moves all damage and effects onto the other model. Including stuff that triggers "on hit" (such as Blind) (even though the Pawn kinda wasn't "hit"). (Infernal Ruling) Because the other model counts as the one "hit", it can break a Chain Attack. (Infernal Ruling) The new model hit may use any abilities that trigger on being hit/damaged by an enemy attack (such as Vengeance and Shock Field). Sprays and AOEs With reference to the timing chart in Appendix A: placing a spray template down occurs at Step 3. Using Sacrificial Pawn occurs at step 6. Placing an AOE template down occurs at step 7. Therefore if you use Sac Pawn vs a spray, the placement of the spray template does not change. If you use Sac Pawn vs an AOE, the placement of the AOE template does change. A model indirectly hit by an AOE attack cannot use Sac Pawn vs it. Since a spray template doesn't move, it may cause the Pawn to be hit twice by the same spray. So you then resolve two damage rolls against it. When/if you shift an AOE template, the original target may be clipped by the edge of the AOE anyway (depending on how far apart the original target and Pawn are). Quick Draw vs Sacrificial Pawn (Edit) If enemy "Model A" shoots you, and then you use Quick Draw against "Model A", but they use Sac Pawn to move your Quick Draw attack to "Model B" then ... Quick Draw has no effect (or rather, it affects "Model B" who isn't currently shooting you so is irrelevant). Point is, "Model A" can continue shooting you. This won't happen with Shield Guard though (outside of a very low-probability scenario) because Shield Guard can only be triggered during an enemy turn.

Rules Clarification : Unarmed      (Edit) Since this model has no weapons it does not have a melee range. This means it can't engage other models, declare charges, or make free strikes Also it can't gain abilities that require a melee range (such as Ragman granting this model Dark Shroud). However, other models that do have melee weapons can engage this model. So this model can still gain the "target in melee" shooting bonus.

Rules Clarification : Hex Bolt - None yet. (Edit)
Rules Clarification : Knowledge - None yet. (Edit)
Rules Clarification : Power - None yet. (Edit)