Stinger

Stinger Legion Lesser Warbeast

Prime This model is available in twoPrime Armies, Dragon's Host Ravens of War . It can also be used in the Unlimited game mode. You can view the other Mk3 models that made it into a Legacy Army at this page. Note that the rest of this page is about the model's Mark III rules.

Like nightmares given form, Stingers swarm among the greater dragonspawn of the Legion. These awful beasts lurk in shallow burrows waiting for hapless victims to approach so they can sink their barbed tails into living flesh. The stinger is then ripped from the creature’s body as its poison gland continues to pump its victim full of venom. This versatile monster is also capable of spewing forth fiery ash, its preferred attack when battling machines or lightly armored foes.

Basic Info

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• Warbeast - All warbeasts share a huge stack of special rules. The short version is they're big, furious, and beat stuff up pretty good. Click here for a newbie-friendly recap, or click here for the full rules.

Abilities

• Eyeless Sight
• Soulless
• Assault

Weapons

Flame Spitter
		RNG			ROF			AOE			POW
		SP 6			1			-			10
Damage Type: Fire
Barbed Stinger
		RNG				POW				P+S
		1				5				10
Critical Poison - On a critical hit, gain an additional die on this weapon's damage rolls against living models.

Animus

	COST	RNG	AOE	POW	DUR	OFF
Counterblast	1	SELF	-	-	Round	No
When an enemy model advances and ends its movement within the spellcaster's command range, the spellcaster can make one basic melee or ranged attack targeting that model, then Counterblast expires. Counterblast lasts for one round.

Theme Forces

• Children of the Dragon
• Oracles of Annihilation
• Primal Terrors
• Ravens of War. Stingers gain Mark Target in this theme.

Thoughts on Stinger

Stinger in a nutshell

Stingers are combined arms lessers with meager stats and situational animus. With 1" melee range and a critical effect that enhances melee damage against living models, it seems to be be a solo hunter, but it also possesses a spray with assault and counterblast. It is basically a mini Carnivean, but with the unfortunate low stats it suffers to bring back its cost on the battelfield. The targets you are possibly after with a POW10 spray or a P+S10 blow will possibly not be fazed by your mediocre MAT5/RAT4, and targets that you can reliably hit will most likely be able to just shrug off your attacks. The Stinger is cheap enough to be used just as cannon fodder/harassing piece, but for the same point cost you can get lessers who may actually get job done.

Combos & Synergies

The Stinger's main value is the animus, both at range and in melee. Apart of that it does not really have any explicit combos, but if you for some reason really love this little guy, maybe you can find some use in the following ways:

• In Ravens of War it is your only lesser warbeast that can both trigger Mark target and enjoy its benefit (from other lessers, as the rule explicitly says Other friendly Faction models). An effective RAT 6 is still not game breaking, but can help you to better flush out infantries from cover, and open up charge lanes for your heavier beasts from a distance.
  • Strider Scouts may allow them to charge and thus Assault for free, using their entire stack to boost attack or damage roll.
• Beast Mistress - Her toolkit helps the positioning of the Stinger, but there are way more capable models she can choose into her battlegroup.
• Thagrosh2 - With his Sacrificial Pawn you'd include one or two lessers anyway. The only thing you might want to chose the Stinger for over the Harrier or the more capable Shredder is its animus. Counterblast allows Thags to spray targets coming into his 10" kill-zone with his magical, stationary-causing spray attack. If they come too close, he can hit them with Rapture back to kingdom come.
  • Thagrosh1 also has a decent spray and a strong melee attack, while the Blight Archon has a sizeable 10" command area for its 10" spray.
• Lylyth1 can also use the Counterblast animus, if the enemy happens to venture within her 8" command range. Tagging a charging warbeast with the Inflict Pain ammo type, and adding a Fury on it will diminish the potential damage it can inflict on her forces. This works however only until the said warbeast won't reach you. If there's any chance that you'll be engaged by it, you better save the Fury for the damage transfer.
• Spawning Vessel - Though it can spawn lessers with more utility, if you find yourself in a situation where you're bogged down by closely clumped, low ARM jamming infantry, there may be some merit in choosing a Stinger. The pot can place a Lesser a significant distance from where it activates if it also moves, and the lesser can activate that turn. Using this to your advantage, it's possible to place the Stinger in a way that maximizes its spray angle and allows it to aim, meaning it might just actually clear that infantry.

Drawbacks & Downsides

• Poor stats across the board.
• Very situational animus
• If you want sprays, you can get a maximum unit of Banshees for the price of 4 Stingers, with Gunfighter and better mobility.

Tricks & Tips

• None, really. It's a fairly straightforward model.

Other

Trivia

Released in Forces of Hordes: Legion of Everblight (2010)

Other Legion models

Legion Index       (Edit)
Battlegroup & Similar
Warlocks	Absylonia1 - Absylonia2 - Anamag - Bethayne1 - Bethayne2 - Fyanna2 - Kallus1 - Kallus2 - Kryssa - Lylyth1 - Lylyth2 - Lylyth3 - Lylyth4 - Rhyas1 - Saeryn1 - Saeryn2 & Rhyas2 - Thagrosh1 - Thagrosh2 - Vayl1 - Vayl2
Other Warbeast Controllers	Beast Mistress - Blight Archon - Thagrosh0
Lesser	Blight Wasps - Shredder - Harrier - Mekanoshredder - Stinger
Light	Afflictor - Naga Nightlurker - Nephilim Bloodseer - Nephilim Bolt Thrower - Nephilim Protector - Nephilim Soldier - Raek - Teraph
Heavy	Angelius - Azrael - Carnivean - Golab - Neraph - Proteus - Ravagore - Scythean - Typhon - Seraph - Zuriel
Gargantuans	Archangel - Blightbringer
Units, Solos, & Battle Engines
Units	Blackfrost Shard - B.N. Archers - B.N. Hex Hunters - B.N. Legionnaires - B.N. Raptors - B.N. Scather Crew - B.N. Swordsmen - B. Rotwings - B.O. Warmongers - B.O. Warspears - Chosen - Grotesque Banshees - Grotesque Raiders - Hellmouth - Ice Witches - Strider Blightblades - Strider Scouts - Spawning Vessel - Virtue Host
Solos	Ammok - Annyssa Ryvaal - Beast Mistress - Blight Archon - B.N Shepherd - B.N. Sorceress - B.N. Warlord - Craelix - Forsaken - Fyanna1 - Grotesque Assassin - Incubi - Spell Martyr - Strider Deathstalker - Succubus - Thagrosh0 - Virtue Champion - B.O. Warmonger War Chief - Yssylla
Battle Engines	Throne of Everblight
Theme Forces
Children of the Dragon - Oracles of Annihilation - Primal Terrors - Ravens of War
Minions
Refer to Who Works for Whom and/or Category: Legion of Everblight Minion
This index was last updated: 2021.11

Rules Clarifications

Rules Clarification : Fire      (Edit) If you deploy in fire hazard terrain (Burning Earth), then you get set on fire before the game starts. Deploying a model in a hazard counts as being "put into play" in the hazard. Being put into play counts as "entering". When you enter a hazard, you trigger the hazard. Moving into "Shallow water" standard terrain does not cause continuous fire to expire. It's magic fire. You can always use non-standard terrain if you agree with your opponent before the game starts, however. A weapon can inflict continuous fire without itself being a fire damage weapon (for example, the Helios's fists). In this case, the attack can hurt models with Immunity:Fire it just won't apply the continuous effect. In terms of which player's clock is running down during the Maintenance Phase: The active player will roll for expiration of all the continuous effects. Then the inactive player will roll for all the damages of the continuous effects. (Judge Ruling)

Rules Clarification : Poison - None yet. (Edit)

Rules Clarification:  : Warbeast      (Edit) (Click Expand to read)

See also the Warbeast page for a recap of the core warbeast rules. Forcing If an ability doesn't specify how much it costs to force, it costs 1. (Infernal Ruling) Animi A single Animus can be on several models at the same time. (Infernal Ruling) Unlike in Mk2, in Mk3 if a model has an animus on it from any source and then another animus is cast on that model, it will lose the first instance of an animus and will be replaced by the second. It does not matter if either the first animus or the second animus is from a warlock or warbeast. (Infernal Ruling) An animi cast by a warlock is an animi and a spell. (Infernal Ruling) Transferring Damage If both the warlock and the warbeast are damaged by the same attack (such as an AOE), then you need to apply the 'normal' damage to the warbeast before the transferred damage. This distinction can be important when you're working out who/what actually destroyed the beast. (Infernal Ruling) Frenzy (Edit) You cannot trigger optional abilities (such as Cleave or Sprint). (Infernal Ruling) You must trigger compulsory abilities (such as Consume) ... except for compulsory abilities that also generate an extra attack (such as Berserk). In that case, you don't get the Berserk attack. (Infernal Ruling) A warbeast may not make an Assault shot as part of a Frenzy activation. If the closest target to a warbeast resolving a Frenzy cannot be charged, then the warbeast will forfeit movement and action (as per the rules of having to charge and not being able to). (Infernal Ruling) If a frenzying warbeast can't reach its charge target (because the charge lane is blocked by terrain, etc) then it will make a failed charge and end its activation. (Locked thread) If a frenzying warbeast has two melee weapons with the same POW, it can choose which one to use. (Infernal Ruling)

Rules Clarification : Eyeless Sight      (Edit) A model that ignores Stealth must ignore both aspects: both (1) the auto-missing, and (2) the 'not counting as an intervening model' parts. This can have some strange interactions with casters & channelers, if one has Eyeless Sight and one does not. There are examples on the Category:Channeler page. Blind vs Eyeless Sight (Edit) If a model is Blinded, and then given Eyeless Sight, then that model ignores Blind ... but it is technically still Blinded. So if you somehow later lose Eyeless Sight (for instance walking out of the range of Menoth's Sight), it will immediately go back to suffering the effects of Blind. (Infernal Ruling) Also this means stuff that only works vs Blind models (ie Hidden Blade) will still trigger vs a "Was Blinded but then got Eyeless" model. Anti-Cloud abilities vs Burning Earth (Edit) If you make a piece of terrain "Burning Earth" it counts as a cloud effect in addition to it's original type. This has 2 odd rulings: If any part of the terrain piece is "hit" by an ability that makes clouds expire (such as Gale Winds) then the entire terrain piece is taken off the table. (Infernal Ruling) If a model can ignore clouds but not the original terrain type, they don't ignore the terrain. For instance if you have a burning forest, then Eyeless Sight can't see through the forest. (Infernal Ruling)

Rules Clarification : Soulless - None yet. (Edit)

Rules Clarification:  : Assault      (Edit) (Click Expand to read)

General Step 1: Declare the charge Are you in already melee? With any enemy, not just your charge target? If yes, you don't get an Assault attack at all (Refer to the latest Errata). Instead it's just a normal charge. If no, continue to Step 2. Note: You cannot be "in melee" with a stationary/knocked down target. Feel free to declare charges (and Assault shots) in this case. You can even charge a knocked down model you're in B2B with, advance 0", and get your ranged attack and your melee attack(s). Step 2: Move the charging model As soon as the movement is finished, determine whether it was a successful charge or not. Do this before resolving anything that triggers on "Ends Movement" (like Admonition, Countercharge). Do this before resolving your Assault attack. Did you make a successful charge? You get the ranged attack even though you're "in melee" (not yet though). Did you fail the charge? You will get the Assault shot anyway (not yet though). Did you fail the charge, but end your movement in melee with someone different to your charge target? You get the ranged attack even though you're "in melee" (not yet though). (Infernal Ruling) Now that you've figured out whether the charge successful, you resolve "Ends Movement" effects (such as Countercharge) before the Assault attack. (Infernal Ruling). If something happens at this point that changes whether a model is in/out of melee range, it does not retroactively change a failed charge into a successful charge or vice versa. If your charge was successful you may use "any time" abilities between 'finishing movement' and 'starting Assault attack'. (Infernal Ruling) If you fail your charge, you may not use "any time" abilities before or after making the Assault attack. (Infernal Ruling) Tip ! Assault is not a "triggered ability" and it will never trigger simultaneously with another ability that triggers/resolves at "ends movement". Instead, the other ability is always resolved before the Assault shot. You can make an Assault shot even if you charged less than 3". Step 3: Make the ranged attack The ranged attack is optional. Since the Assault attack is outside your Combat Action, you can only do a basic ranged attack. CRA & Special ranged attacks are only allowed during your Combat Action, you can't do them. (Infernal Ruling CRA & Special Attack) Did you move at least 3" during the charge movement? Who cares, that is irrelevant to the Assault attack! Make your ranged attack vs your charge target If the charge target is already dead (which can happen when units charge) then you don't get to redirect your Assault attack vs 'someone else'. You simply don't get an Assault attack. (Infernal Ruling) A model which can do something "instead of making a ranged attack" (such as the Spriggan's Targeting Flare) then they can do that as an Assault attack. (Infernal Ruling) If your ranged attacks triggers other attacks/damage that occur "after the attack" (such as Drag or Electro Leap) then those will resolve as per normal, regardless of whether you had a successful charge or not. (Infernal Ruling) Is the target in melee with the shooter? If yes, then you ignore the +4 DEF bonus (as per the 3rd paragraph of "Targeting a Model in Melee" (TMM) rules) If no, resolve the ranged attack exactly the same as if it were a normal ranged attack. Step 4: After finishing the Assault attack If it was an unsuccessful charge, your activation now ends. You may not trigger "any time" abilities. (Infernal Ruling) You may not trigger "at the end of the activation" abilities (such as Sprint) (Infernal Ruling) If it was a successful charge, and your charge target is ... still alive, then you get your charge attack (as per the charge rules) dead, then you get your initial melee attack(s) vs anyone still in your melee range (as per the charge rules). Either way, you don't get to make more ranged attacks (other than the obvious exceptions like Gunfighter, of course). Units Move all models in the unit before making any Assault attacks. (Infernal Ruling) Make all Assault attacks before making any Charge attacks. (Infernal Ruling) Each model in the unit is effectively "stalled" while you move/shoot the other models. This "stall" does not create an opportunity to use "any time" abilities. (Infernal Ruling) If a trooper's target dies before they make their Assault shot, they don't get to redirect it. You just skip their Assault shot. (Infernal Ruling) You cannot make Assault attacks while out of formation, as per the regular formation rules about making attacks. Assault & CRA (Edit) You cannot mix Combined Range Attacks with Assault shots, as CRA works during your combat action and Assault shots occur before it. (Infernal Ruling) Other Warbeasts Warbeasts cannot use Assault during a Frenzy. Refer to the latest errata. Assault vs Countercharge ( Edit ) Things which are resolved when a model "ends movement" (such as Countercharge) need to be resolved before the Assault attack. (Infernal Ruling). Assault & Drag ( Edit ) You determine whether a charge was successful or not before making the Assault attack. If you make an unsuccessful charge but then use Drag to get your charge target into melee range, then: It is still a failed charge and your activation is going to end after the Assault attack is resolved. (Infernal Ruling) You will get the free melee attack from Drag as part of resolving the Assault ranged attack. (Infernal Ruling) Whether or not your charge was successful, this free melee attack is not a charge attack. (Infernal Ruling) You won't be able to purchase additionals (because your activation ended).

Rules Clarification : Counterblast      (Edit) What does trigger Counterblast Counterblast triggers off any advance, not just in-activation stuff. You can trigger Counterblast during your own turn, if your opponent has an ability to move during your turn (such as Admonition). Standing still but changing facing is an advance. What doesn't trigger Counterblast Aiming, or forfeiting your movement, is not advancing. If a model doesn't move, doesn't change facing, doesn't aim ... does nothing but skips straight ahead to its Combat Action, this is not an advance. (Infernal Ruling) Being placed (such as Teleport) is not an advance. Involuntary movement (being slammed, thrown, or pushed) is not an advance. Models can trigger this by walking into your back arc or out of LOS, but you still need LOS to make your attack. Unless you have something like Ghost Shot.