Saeryn & Rhyas, Talons of Everblight
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| Saeryn & Rhyas, Talons of Everblight |
The twins Saeryn and Rhyas are two of Everblight’s most deadly warlocks, and their bond has grown such that they are far more dangerous together than apart. The very being of the twins and their athancs are now entwined and they can switch places with a thought. Each one gives the other abilites and can use their magic through the other. Their living vitality is shared, so that destroying one is impossible without eliminating the other. As long as one twin still draws breath, the other can endure even the most severe wounds.
- 1 Basic Info
- 2 Thoughts on The Twins
- 3 List Building Advice
- 4 Other
|Saeryn2 & Rhyas2|
- Unit of Warlocks - All warlocks come with a stack of standard special rules - most notably being awesome. Furthermore, this unit includes more than one warlock model, so it is even more awesome.
Feat - Conjoined Spirits
Conjoined Spirits can be used once per game by either Saeryn or Rhyas. When it is used, you can either:
- have Saeryn and Rhyas immediately trade places or
- you can return one of them to play. If you choose to return Saeryn or Rhyas to play, place the returned model completely within 3" of the model that used Conjoined Spirits. The returned model comes into play with a number of fury points equal to its FURY.
After Conjoined Spirits is used, Saeryn and Rhyas cannot advance for the rest of the turn. If either Saeryn or Rhyas is damaged by an attack made by the other, they both lose Conjoined Spirtis for the rest of the game.
- Twin Sister - (1) Saeryn and Rhyas are both warlock models, but only Saeryn has the Officer advantage. (2) Saeryn and Rhyas share a single battlegroup and count as one warlock for the purposes of army construction. (3) Saeryn and Rhyas cannot have an Attached model. (4) Your warlock is destroyed only if both Saeryn and Rhyas are destroyed or RFP'd.
- Saeryn only
- Rhyas only
- Acrobatics - This model can advance through other models if it has enough movement to move completely past their bases. This model ignores intervening models when declaring its charge target.
- Granted: Riposte - While this model is in formation, models in its unit gain Riposte. (Riposte - When it is missed by an enemy melee attack, immediately after the attack is resolved this model can make one basic melee attack against the attacking model.)
- Channeler: [Saeryn] - As above (they can both channel through each other)
Spells - Saeryn
| Banishing Ward
|Enemy upkeep spells and animi on target friendly model/unit immediately expire. Affected models cannot be targeted by enemy spells or animi.|
| Blood Rain
|Blood rain causes corrosion damage. Models hit suffer the Corrosion continuous effect.|
| Marked for Death
|Target model/unit suffers -2 DEF, loses Incorporeal or Stealth, and cannot gain Incorporeal or Stealth while affected by Marked for Death.|
| Psychic Vampire
|When an enemy model declares it is casting a spell while in this model's control range, the enemy spellcaster immediately suffers 1 damage points and this model can remove 1 damage point. If the enemy spellcaster is destroyed as a result of this damage, the spell does not take effect.|
| Razor Wind
|This spell has zero special effects.|
Spells - Rhyas
| Flashing Blade
|The spellcaster immediately makes one basic attack with one of its melee weapons against each enemy model in its LOS that is in the weapon's melee range. These attacks are simultaneous.|
|Target friendly Faction model/unit gains Stealth. Models are not affected while out of formation.|
|The spellcaster and friendly Faction models beginning their activations in its control range gain Relentless Charge for one turn.|
- Children of the Dragon. They gain Tactician [Blighted] in this theme.
- Oracles of Annihilation. In this theme they can start the game with friendly upkeeps in play. Also, enemy models that end their activation within 2" of them suffer continuous corrosion.
- Primal Terrors
- Ravens of War
Thoughts on The Twins
The Twins in a nutshell
The twins are a curiosity amongst most warlocks and warcasters - two technically full warlocks tied together as a single unit. This sounds incredibly powerful, and it decidedly is in some ways, but it's also incredibly restricting, in one part due to the nature of units, and in one part due to the nature of having to balance two full warlocks being present but still being one warlock in terms of the game size. That is to say their individual powers are tuned back immensely to prevent them from being overpowered. On top of that, despite many of their struggles finding a place in Legion, they lost a few of their useful tricks in the edition change.
Using these two to their maximum potential can be a little awkward. One wants to be up killing things, the other would like to stay back and support her Warbeasts. Yet due to the nature of unit coherency and saddled with only an average CMD of 8, it's necessary to find a compromise between the two. Rhyas can't do much if she gets outside of Saeryn's CMD, but thanks to her high SPD is more than capable of running right out of it. It's advisable to keep Saeryn hidden, as she can get more done with her higher fury and bigger spell list, revealing her only when you want to commit Rhyas to threaten a point. If Rhyas dies, you can always feat and bring her back later.
A lot of janky maneuvers have been shut down for the Twins since it's not longer possible to charge friendly models. Before, you could have Saeryn charge Rhyas, and then have Rhyas charge what you want dead (before attacking, due to the order of activation rules for units), allowing Saeryn to still succeed her charge and keep Rhyas in CMD, but not actually hit her. Now, you'll have to have something nearby to charge with Saeryn, or force her to run, neither of which are ideal options.
As they are both fully fledged warlocks, you can set up some interesting scenario pressure if the opportunity arises. While you still may only dominate a single point for scoring, you can have both warlocks threatening to dominate, and simply choose which point to score on. This gives you some flexibility of which point to focus your efforts on each turn, and also forces your opponent to commit more resources to each individual scenario location. In current Steamroller rules (2017 and later), both warlocks can control different zones/flags, as long as Rhyas is in formation.
- Staff of Shyvess - Sadly this is a strict downgrade from Saeryn1. Not totally useless though. If you need a second source of enemy upkeep removal, feel free to wallop the suffering model on the head as this isn't likely to do much damage.
- Acrobatics & Parry - Just like Rhyas1, these combine together to get her into really obnoxious locations, and with less fear of death thanks to the Twins' feat, she feels much more comfortable charging headlong into danger to do what she does best: murder all the things. Unfortunately, she doesn't have Sprint in this incarnation, so once she is there, she is there.
- Granted: Riposte - Works the same as normal Riposte, but it's nice that she offers this to Saeryn. Too bad Saeryn doesn't do something cool like Granted: Force Barrier in return.
- Unit of Warlocks - This is a blessing and a curse, though probably more the latter. Thanks to it, if you want to risk Rhyas, you really have to risk Saeryn too. Use terrain and screening models to your advantage, and don't forget that Rhyas can charge over your own stuff (and ignore them for LOS purposes) in order to get Saeryn into safer spots when she goes on a killing spree.
- Twin Sister - This is even more of a ball and chain on the Twins, as it really reigns in Rhyas's ability to go wild. It also lost a very important aspect: the ability for the two to transfer damage to each other, which means RFP damage is no longer avoidable. Be very wary of where you land Rhyas and what the enemy will use to kill her.
- Channeler - It's far more important that Saeryn can use Rhyas to channel than vice versa. After you've thrown Rhyas somewhere and she's done her thing, take advantage of her forward position to lob some key spells where you want them.
Their Feat, even though wordy, is simple. You either bring a dead Twin back to life within 3" of the other one, or make them swap places. It specifically says that neither twin can cause damage to the other one unless you want to lose the Feat, so the days of killing Rhyas, charging, and bringing her back are gone. Legions beasts did lose Blood Creation in the edition change however, which means it's not out of the question to have a beast kill Rhyas early in the turn and still have her brought back to life.
99% of the time, you're bringing Rhyas back from the dead after she went on a murder spree (hopefully getting some scenario points in the process), preferably as part of an assassination run from downtown. The other 1% is because something went horribly wrong on one of your opponents' turns. With a Seraph, the threat of the Twins' assassination can be roughly 17", semi-nonlinear.
- First, the Seraph Slipstreams Saeryn forward.
- Saeryn charges an enemy within 5" of the enemy caster, or the caster themselves if able.
- At some point before the end of her activation, Saeryn feats and brings Rhyas back completely within the feat's range, and 2" of the enemy caster. If you want to soften them with spells, do it before the feat so you do not suffer target in melee penalties.
- Rhyas activates and chops their head off, hopefully.
Sometimes you can be lucky enough to put Rhyas in the enemy's back arc, so make sure to do that when able.
Be very very very careful with Blood Rain, if you accidentally kill Rhyas with this, say goodbye to your feat.
- Banishing Ward - A good upkeep spell that can either keep a favored beast safe ahead of time, or be used to remove pesky enemy upkeeps. It's no Purification, but it can be a lifesaver if used correctly.
- Blood Rain - Not a particularly useful spell, but nice to have in case your opponent forgets you have it and clumps some models together.
- Marked for Death - This spell is far more about the DEF penalty than the removal of incorporeal or stealth, as there aren't a lot of incorporeal models in the game and most of Legion doesn't care about stealth.
- Psychic Vampire & Onslaught
- Note that you can't have both Psychic Vampire and Onslaught in play at the same time, because they're both an upkeep on the same unit.
- Psychic Vampire is a very powerful spell against some armies.
- Onslaught is likely to be a better spell to upkeep turn-to-turn unless your opponent has lots of spellcasters (it's worth noting that this spell works on warbeasts using animi). But if you need Psychic Vampire up, make sure Rhyas and any other models that needed pathfinder activate first.
- Razor Wind - A solid nuke, and with a chaneller this can be used to bring an unaware caster down. Not exceptionally useful beyond that, except perhaps sniping a wayward solo or incorporeal model.
- Flashing Blade - Flashing Blade is great for Rhyas. With weaponmaster and (critical) Decapitate, she can explode a lot of dudes. It can be cast multiple times, and before and after advancing/charging. Use this if your enemy has a lot of jamming infantry on a zone or flag to clear it out and threaten a Dominate.
- Occultation - Keep a fragile unit safe from shooting for the most part. Raptors are also always and excellent Occultation target. In a pinch, you can put it on the Twins, but bear in mind this will remove Onslaught or Psychic Vampire if they are active.
- Onslaught - See above
Drawbacks & Downsides
- Incredibly fragile. With roughly half the number of wounds of an average warlock with similar DEF/ARM ratings, these two will tremble against boosted blast damage especially since Saeryn lost Force Barrier when she joined forces with her sister.
- Easily countered feat. All it takes is a Dire Troll with Snacking, a well placed Hellfire, or any number of other RFP effects to shut down their feat which is unfortunately their biggest strength despite it doing nothing for their army.
- Can't have a Succubus, and they have a lot of upkeeps they would love to have. Also means no easy access to a cloud for concealment.
- Average CMD that barely keeps them in coherence with each other even with a normal advance.
- Even when on her own, a single Twin is still a unit. So she can be affected by anti-unit stuff like Rebuke, or that guy who says "No your Rhyas can't declare a charge because she has already cast a spell. You should have issued the Press Forward order before cast a spell."
- Their combined 12 fury and low Warbeast points means that their battlegroup needs to be balanced to feed that much fury without getting to expensive to bring troops, and loosing even one might mean one of the sisters is cutting for fury.
Tips & Tricks
- Flashing Blade is not an attack per se - you can still cast it, if you sacrificed your combat action to get up from Knockdown. It is situational, but if you do not need your combat action (for a charge, for example), it costs only 1 fury; just as many as to shake off the above mentioned effects.
List Building Advice
These two like the combined arms approach. They have low Warbeast points, but a lot of fury to spare between the two of them. With this in mind, try not to overload their battlegroup even though it can be tempting. A smaller battlegroup can be an okay thing, allowing them to hold more fury for transfers which they desperately need to stay safe. Remember that each beast you bring belongs to both sisters, so they both have access to each animus and benefit from Spirit Bond. A larger army (read: enough infantry) helps to get a lot of mileage out of Marked for Death, and helps keep a buffer between the enemy and your incredibly fragile warlocks.
- The Blackfrost Shard is something worth seriously considering in a Twins list as they don't have any damage buffs and will otherwise struggle with higher ARM targets.
- Blighted Nyss Swordsmen shine with access to Occultation and Onslaught. Generally this unit has trouble making it up the field in one piece and dealing with terrain getting into position, and Rhyas offers them a solution to both problems. Command Attachment optional but recommended.
- The Blighted Nyss Warlord pairs wonderfully with them and similarly loves Onslaught.
- Blighted Nyss Raptors are self sufficient cavalry that are almost always worth a thought in many Legion lists, but especially when Occultation is on the table. Stealth raptors can get an impressive amount of work done.
- Grotesque Banshees are cheap and fast, and with Marked for Death they can take out a lot of medium ARM infantry with reasonable accuracy.
- Add an Assassin, and you can build a stealth-heavy army around the twins.
- Zuriel is their pet warbeast they can take in any theme. He may be very tempting as he can benefit from both of his bonds when taken with the Twins, and the utility of a Stealth Channeler is very promising. That said, his personal damage output is poor, and he loses out on Grievous Wounds from Saeryn as she lost her Deathspurs. Don't write him off, but make sure you can really justify his cost when including him in your list.
- Dodge can stack with Riposte and resolve in the order of your choosing, meaning you can get attacked, stab back, and then move safely away. With a Protector nearby, this can occur quite easily. The effect can be achieved much cheaper with a Harrier however.
- A Nephilim Protector is probably required for the Twins for Shield Guard alone. Occultation is likely to be elsewhere, which means accurate shooting can be a real threat despite their high DEF values. He can also play bodyguard to Rhyas when she charges into danger, making her very hard to remove in melee and allowing her to get a lot of use out of Riposte.
- An alternative to this is Wrongeye & Snapjaw with their spell, Starcrossed. It's an expensive package, but potentially much safer for the Twins.
- Despite wanting to bring a lot of infantry, a Blightbringer might not be the best addition to a Twins list due to his high point cost and their low warbeast points. That said, he does offer a STR/ARM buff to the Twins which can help them feel a lot safer, and any other infantry you bring with will appreciate his presence. He can be a good way to keep Saeryn safe.
- If you go this route, you will need to bring some cheap beasts to keep the Twins fury fueled from turn to turn.
- A Raek can improve Rhyas's threat on the enemy's turn by placing its animus on herself. The Raek itself is a great assassination enabler or flanker on its own as well.
- If you want to increase the scenario pressure, a single Angelius gives you three casts of Repulsion a turn.
- A Seraph can help the Twins get a little more distance out of their charges, and like the Angelius they get three casts for the price of one.
- If both Twins cast Slipstream, you can have Saeryn get close enough to Rhyas to trigger it, and then have Rhyas charge off and affect Saeryn with it as well. It's harder to do now that they cannot charge each other, but can still be useful if set up properly.
Released in Hordes: Devastation (2015)
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Rules Clarification : Twins, Onslaught, Psychic Vampire
Return to Play - Own Unit (Edit)
|* The "Damage Type: Magical" is not inherited by "secondary" damage from a weapon. That is, stuff like arcs (Electro Leap) or hazards (Scather). (Infernal Ruling)
Caster - Attack roll
Stealth - It affects both LOS and the attack roll
|Resolving the attack|
Under this heading, the word "Thresher" is used interchangeably for "Flashing Blade" and "Cyclone" too
Flashing Blade only