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Legion Logo.jpg Proteus

Legion Character Heavy Warbeast

The dragonspawn Proteus is Absylonia’s greatest creation. With a mass of thrashing tentacles projecting from its horrible visage, Proteus is the dragon’s hunger given obscene form. This unnatural abomination drags its victims inexorably into the grasp of its waiting claws. Those ensnared die horribly as Proteus strips flesh from bone, filling the air with a bloody mist.

Basic Info

Proteus
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Warcaster 0
BASE Large
SPD 5
STR 12
MAT 7
RAT N/A
M.A. N/A
DEF 12
ARM 18
CMD N/A
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FOCUS N/A
FURY 4
THRS 9
HP 30
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COST 18
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Warcaster 1
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Understanding
the Statblock

Warbeast - All warbeasts share a huge stack of special rules. The short version is they're big, furious, and beat stuff up pretty good. Click here for a newbie-friendly recap, or click here for the full rules.

Abilities

  • Eyeless Sight symbol.jpg Eyeless Sight
  • Pathfinder symbol.jpg Pathfinder
  • Soulless symbol.jpg Soulless
  • Bond [ Absylonia ] - If this model begins the game in Absylonia's battlegroup, it is bonded to them. This model is not considered to be bonded while under your opponent's control. While this model is bonded to Absylonia and in their control range, its melee weapons gain Grievous Wounds. (Grievous Wounds - A model hit by this weapon loses Tough and cannot have damage removed from it for one round.)
  • Snacking - When this model boxes a living model with a melee attack, it can choose to RFP the boxed model. When it does, this model can remove d3 damage points.
  • Unyielding - This model gains +2 ARM against melee damage rolls.

Weapons

  • Tentacles - 2" reach, POW 2, P+S 14 melee weapon.
    • Chain Weapon symbol.jpg Chain Weapon
    • Chain Strike - This weapon becomes RNG 4 during this model's activation.
    • Pull - If this model hits an enemy model with an equal or smaller base with a basic attack with this weapon, immediately after the attack is resolved the hit model can be pushed directly towards this model until it contacts a model, an obstacle, or an obstruction.
  • Talon (x2) - 1" reach, POW 5, P+S 17 melee weapons.

Animus

COST RNG AOE POW DUR OFF
Crawling Chaos

2 SELF - - Round -
While B2B with the spellcaster, enemy models suffer -2 DEF and cannot advance except to change facing. Crawling Chaos lasts for one round.

Theme Forces

Recent proposed Changes

2020.09 Virtues Errata

  • Points drop to 18 (from 19)
  • +1 DEF
  • Talons gained +1 POW


Thoughts on Proteus

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See also Category: Recent Change and Category: Recent Release.

Proteus in a nutshell

On paper Proteus is a rather expensive, and pillow-fisted heavy, with average stats all over. However, due to his special rules he is an awesome board controlling tool, and can really help you with the ever-important beneficial piece trades, which keeps the Legion army going.

This SPD5 beast has an unaided threat range of 12", which can help the rest of your army tremendously, pulling key targets closer to your battle line. Its animus is rather expensive, but ensures that once a key target is in B2B with you, it will go nowhere, 'till Proteus dies. And he just might live, as Snacking plus Unyielding gives a fair amount of staying power, even if his DEF is not bigger than the rest of the Carnivean chassis.

With either version of Abyslonia, he picks up Grievous Wounds - an excellent ability that further enhances his survivability, and encourages you to get stuck in. Didn't kill that warjack or warbeast but broke X or Y system? Good luck killing Proteus back because you're stuck being crippled. It also shuts down any tarpits that rely on Tough or self-healing to outstay your onslaught.

That all said, Proteus isn't a point and click warbeast, and he will still fall to concerted enemy attacks despite his hardiness. Positioning him correctly and choosing targets wisely will require a bit of finesse. On his own he won't kill most other similarly costed heavies. He'll appreciate a STR buff, and anyone who can further bolster his ARM will go a long way toward keeping him in the game.

Also, he's got a Cthulu face (and his new sculpt is superb), so that's neat.

Combos & Synergies

Proteus can hold off small swarms of infantry, lock down jacks and beasts, and even enable assassinations. He's a solid anvil, but needs a powerful hammer if you want to use his skills to hold scenario or get ahead in an attrition battle. Here are a few casters and models to consider with Proteus.

  • Abby1 - The bond with her pet warbeast is already been praised; Abby1 favours a few, quality pieces in her battlegroup instead of numerous smaller ones, and Proteus fits perfectly in there. Playing god enables you to make a real Flying Spaghetti Monster out of him, and with the STR buff you just might kill heavies, that otherwise would survive. Wild Aggression is also an appealing choice, enabling you to charge in, cast your animus, and still reliably drag in 3 targets. Combine with Blight Burst to make paperweight out of a large part of your opponent's battlegroup.
  • Abby2 - She turns every beast into a powerhouse, and that's no different for Proteus. Fortify allows him to stay incredibly survivable once he's tied up in melee as well, allowing his ARM to compete with Khadoran heavy jacks. It also stops slams and pushes that would be used to move him out of B2B, if his Crawling Chaos animus is on the table.
  • Thanks to Pull and Chain Strike, Proteus works really well with the other board-controlling elements of the Legion. With proper positioning it is possible to ping-pong a heavy into the heart of your army, without exposing a single model to danger. Consider the Hellmouth, and warbeasts with movement tricks (Neraph due to Beat Back, the Angelius's Repulse, the Attractor animus from the Afflictor, etc).

Outside theme forces

  • Thagrosh1 can ramp Proteus's effective ARM to the same level as Abby2, granting him excellent survival rates. He's not a bad target for Dark Revival as well. If you revive Proteus, he can still move and use his animus to continue to disrupt the enemy's movement. Thagrosh1 also offers a STR buff for Proteus to allow him to actually threaten other heavies.
  • Thagrosh2 has similar offerings for Proteus (Dragon's Blood for ARM and Manifest Destiny for damage), but bear in mind that Chain Strike only applies during activation, meaning Dragon Storm's bonus attack/movement is only at the weapon's base 2" range. He can still drag (keep this in mind for free strikes!).

Drawbacks & Downsides

  • Expensive.
  • High cost animus cuts into the amount of enemies you can pull in.
  • Low P+S for a heavy beast of his price range.
  • Unyielding is only effective against melee attacks, leaving him fairly vulnerable to reliable guns and guns in close combat (Gunfighter and the like).
  • Minor skornergy on its weapons: the Tentacles have the most utility, but have the lowest P+S.

Tips and Tricks

  • During your activation your melee range is 4", which is very good shutting down Counter Charges, while you walk in to drag an important model out of formation (as CC won't trigger, if the counter-charging model is engaged).
  • Know, which models resist pushes. Models and units with Sturdy, or under the effect of Magnetic Field/Fortify/Earth's Blessing/Inviolable Resolve spells can form an impenetrable wall against the Tentacles.

Other

Trivia

  • Released in Hordes: Domination (2011)
  • Derived from Greek πρωτος (protos) meaning "first". In Greek mythology this was the name of a prophetic god of the sea, (possibly firstborn) son of the god Poseidon. He can attain countless different forms, and only those who can capture him in his original form can harness his prophetic powers. That is a slight nod toward its twisted, blighted form, which found its true master under Absylonia, a warlock, whose body was also constantly mutating before Everblight granted her reborn in her epic incarnation.

Other Legion models

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Battlegroup & Similar
Warlocks

Absylonia1 - Absylonia2 - Anamag - Bethayne1 - Bethayne2 - Fyanna2 - Kallus1 - Kallus2 - Kryssa - Lylyth1 - Lylyth2 - Lylyth3 - Rhyas1 - Saeryn1 - Saeryn2 & Rhyas2 - Thagrosh1 - Thagrosh2 - Vayl1 - Vayl2

Other Warbeast Controllers Beast Mistress - Blight Archon
Lesser Blight Wasps - Shredder - Harrier - Mekanoshredder - Stinger
Light Afflictor - Naga Nightlurker - Nephilim Bloodseer - Nephilim Bolt Thrower - Nephilim Protector - Nephilim Soldier - Raek - Teraph
Heavy Angelius - Carnivean - Neraph - Ravagore - Scythean - Seraph
Azrael - Golab - Proteus - Typhon - Zuriel
Gargantuans Archangel - Blightbringer
Units, Solos, & Battle Engines
Units B.N. Archers - B.N. Hex Hunters - B.N. Legionnaires - B.N. Raptors - B.N. Scather Crew - B.N. Swordsmen - B. Rotwings - B.O. Warmongers - B.O. Warspears - Chosen - Grotesque Banshees - Grotesque Raiders - Hellmouth - Ice Witches - Strider Blightblades - Strider Scouts - Spawning Vessel
Blackfrost Shard
Solos Beast Mistress - B.N Shepherd - B.N. Sorceress - B.N. Warlord - Forsaken - Grotesque Assassin - Incubi - Spell Martyr - Strider Deathstalker - Succubus - B.O. Warmonger War Chief
Ammok - Annyssa Ryvaal - Fyanna the Lash - Craelix
Battle Engines Throne of Everblight
Theme Forces
Children of the Dragon - Oracles of Annihilation - Primal Terrors - Ravens of War
Minions
Refer to Who Works for Whom and/or Category: Legion of Everblight Minion
This index was last updated: 2020.10

Rules Clarifications

Rules Clarification : Chain Weapon - None yet. (Edit)

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Rules Clarification : Chain Strike and/or Lunge     (Edit)

  • The extra melee range kicks in the instant you start your activation, and if that makes you engage an enemy then it means you can't aim.
  • The extra range does apply during Frenzies (because that is defined as an activation)
  • The extra range doesn't apply during free strikes or when your opponent takes control of your model.
  • It doesn't increase the range of Power Attacks, because you do not apply weapon special rules to Power Attacks (unless they specifically reference Power Attacks, like Hard Head does). (Locked Thread)
  • If you're affected by another range-altering rule (such as Jakes2's feat) then that won't override Chain Strike. (Infernal Ruling)
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Rules Clarification:  : Drag , Pull, and/or Catch     (Edit)
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Ranged Attack Damage (Drag and Catch only)
  • If a model is destroyed by the ranged attack, Drag/Catch does not trigger.
    • Corpse tokens, soul tokens, and etc will be generated from the model’s original position.
    • You won't get the free melee attack from Drag, even if there's something different already in your melee range. No drag = no melee.
  • Enemy effects that occur after the attack (such as "Enliven" and "Whelp") are triggered before Drag but after Pull. Refer Apdx A:
    • Pull occurs at Step 12 of the attack sequence . (Infernal Ruling)
    • Enemy effects occur at Step 13. (Infernal Ruling)
    • Drag occurs at Step 14.
    • As such, Enliven & Whelp etc can be used to 'block' the Drag movement, for instance, using Enliven to move behind an obstruction or another model.


The Movement

  • You cannot Drag/Pull/Catch models with a larger base size than you.
  • The movement is a Push effect, which is involuntary movement.
    • It is not an advance and will not trigger stuff like Countercharge.
    • They won't take free strikes because it is involuntary movement.
    • They will take damage from any hazards they're pushed through/into (such as Scathers).
  • You can drag your target through Incorporeal models, if there's enough space on the other side, because the rules for Incorporeal specifically allow this. (If there's not enough space, the push will stop on the far side of the Incorporeal model.)
  • You cannot drag models through Curse-of-Shadows-ed or similar models, because those rules refer to "models can advance through this model" and a push is not an advance.
  • You may drag models that you are already in melee with. However most models can't shoot while in melee, so this is pretty much limited to the Prime Axiom and Galleon (see the corner-case scenarios, below).
  • If you get to trigger Drag/Pull/Catch on a free strike (mostly just Pull), the moving model will never get out of your melee range. They have to keep advancing out and being pushed back until either they run out of movement, or you fail a free strike. (Infernal Ruling)
  • Push - General     (Edit)   [Show/Hide]
    • Pushed models do not change their facing.
    • Pushed models move at half rate through difficult terrain. Also, Pathfinder doesn't apply during pushes.
    • Pushed models stop if they contact anything - a model of any size, or any obstacles or obstructions.
    • You don't get free strikes against pushed models, because it is "involuntary movement" and therefore does not count as an advance.
    • Pushed models suffer the effects of anything they move through (such as acid clouds).
    • If you use a Push vs a charging model (via a free strike for example), this will stop the charge movement (refer core rulebook).
      • However, if the pushed model is in melee range of its charge target after the push, then it is considered a successful charge. (Infernal Ruling)
      • In that scenario, you measure whether the charging model moved 3" or less excluding the push distance. (Infernal Ruling)


The Free Melee Attack(s) (Drag and Catch only)

  • If the target model doesn't end up in melee range (whether because the ranged attack killed it outright, or something blocked the drag movement) then you don't get a free melee attack and don't get the option to buy additional melee attacks.
  • If the dragged model can't be targeted by melee attacks, you may not make your free drag attack and don't get the option to buy additional melee attacks. (Infernal Ruling)
  • For both of the above two cases, you may still complete your initial ranged attacks and buy additional ranged attacks as per normal (if you have more guns and/or Reload).
  • You may make the free melee attack against models that "cannot be pushed" (assuming you're in melee range already). The "After the model is moved" is a timing clause, not a conditional clause.
    • To pull this off, you need an ability that allows you to make ranged attack while you're already in melee, so is pretty much limited to just Colossals and/or models attacking objectives.
  • After using Drag/Catch, the attacking model may make a single melee attack without spending focus. (So Black Ogrun can make a single melee attack.)
  • After doing the free attack, you may buy additional attacks if you have a method of purchasing them. Models with Drag but no focus/fury (such as Black Ogrun) can't buy additional attacks (despite what is implied by the rule on their card) - it's just a standarised wording for Drag.


More corner-case Rules Clarifications

  • Models that can make Ranged Attacks while in melee
    • This section is pretty much limited to the Prime Axiom and Galleon who, thanks to being Colossals, can continue to shoot after dragging something into melee with themselves. It can also apply to any model shooting at a "can never be in melee" model (eg Scenario objectives).
    • When you start your activation, you still need to choose either 'initial ranged attacks' or 'initial melee attacks'. If you choose melee attacks, then you will never get to shoot your Drag weapons.
    • If you shoot a Drag weapon you need to resolve the drag move and the free melee attack, but afterwards you're still in "shooting" mode. The best way to think of it is it's "interrupting" your normal ranged attacks and after resolving it, you go back to completing your initials. So it might go:
      • Shoot the Drag weapon.
      • Drag the enemy closer.
      • Resolve the free melee attack.
      • Drag resolved. Now you finish shooting the rest of your weapons.
    • Once you've completed all your initial ranged attacks (and any free drag melee attacks) then you have the option of buying additional attacks (ranged if you have Reload, melee otherwise.
    • However, if you get overexcited and start buying melee attacks after the free drag one then you don't get to finish shooting the rest of your weapons.
    • This is because shooting the rest of your guns is completing your "Initial Ranged Attacks" but by buying melee attacks you have jumped ahead to "After Initial Attacks" (refer first sentence of "Additional Attacks" pg 36 of Prime).
  • Black Spot + Drag or Catch
    • If you trigger Drag/Catch, then any attacks you get from Black Spot can be either ranged or melee, your choice. (Infernal Ruling)
  • Dual Attack & Drag ( Edit )
    • This is pretty-much limited to just the Prime Axiom under Syntherion
    • If you charge model A then utilise Dual Attack to make a ranged attack vs the same model, then you would get the free melee attack from Drag. The Drag attack is a charge attack. (Infernal Ruling)
    • If you charge model A then utilise Dual Attack to make a ranged attack vs a different model, then you would lose the free melee attack from Drag. Your first melee attack must be versus the charge target, and you cannot save the Drag attack for later. (Infernal Ruling)
    • If you didn't charge then ... just go nuts. There's no restrictions that I know of.
  • Assault & Drag ( Edit )
    • You determine whether a charge was successful or not before making the Assault attack.
    • If you make an unsuccessful charge but then use Drag to get your charge target into melee range, then:
      • It is still a failed charge and your activation is going to end after the Assault attack is resolved. (Infernal Ruling)
      • You will get the free melee attack from Drag as part of resolving the Assault ranged attack. (Infernal Ruling)
      • Whether or not your charge was successful, this free melee attack is not a charge attack. (Infernal Ruling)
      • You won't be able to purchase additionals (because your activation ended).
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Rules Clarification : Open Fist  (aka, Power Attack Throw)     (Edit)

  • Throw - General ( Edit )
    • See also the Throw article for a recap of the core Throw rules.
    • Because you move the target model between the attack roll and the damage roll, you can get different buffs applied to the two rolls. For instance, if you throw the target in or out of a Flanking model's melee range.
  • Throw - Power Attack
    • When you make a Throw Power Attack, no other abilities of the Fist weapon (such as Chain Strike) are applied unless they specifically mention Throws. (Locked Thread)
    • If you do a Power Attack Throw and you choose to throw the target directly away, no deviation is rolled to determine the final position of the model. (Locked thread)
    • A model that cannot be targeted by melee attacks (such as Una2's feat) cannot have models thrown at them, either. (Infernal Ruling)
    • Since throwing Model [A] at Model [B] involves making a melee attack roll vs Model [B] which is out of your melee range, it technically breaks a whole bunch of core rules. (Infernal Checking)
    • Even though you make a "melee attack roll" vs Model [B] you don't actually make a melee attack vs it. Also, the damage it suffers is from Collateral damage, not from the original attack. So you can't trigger stuff like Snacking from damage you did to Model B.


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Rules Clarification:  : Warbeast      (Edit)
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See also the Warbeast page for a recap of the core warbeast rules.

Forcing

  • If an ability doesn't specify how much it costs to force, it costs 1. (Infernal Ruling)

Animi

  • A single Animus can be on several models at the same time. (Infernal Ruling)
  • Unlike in Mk2, in Mk3 if a model has an animus on it from any source and then another animus is cast on that model, it will lose the first instance of an animus and will be replaced by the second. It does not matter if either the first animus or the second animus is from a warlock or warbeast. (Infernal Ruling)
  • An animi cast by a warlock is an animi and a spell. (Infernal Ruling)

Transferring Damage

  • If both the warlock and the warbeast are damaged by the same attack (such as an AOE), then you need to apply the 'normal' damage to the warbeast before the transferred damage. This distinction can be important when you're working out who/what actually destroyed the beast. (Infernal Ruling)

Frenzy

  • You cannot trigger optional abilities during a Frenzy (such as Cleave). (Infernal Ruling)
  • You must trigger compulsory abilities during a Frenzy ... unless that ability generates an extra attack (like Berserk). In that case, you don't get the Berserk attack. (Infernal Ruling)
  • A warbeast may not make an Assault shot as part of a Frenzy activation. (Refer latest errata)
  • If the closest target to a warbeast resolving a Frenzy cannot be charged, then the warbeast will forfeit movement and action (as per the rules of having to charge and not being able to). (Infernal Ruling)
  • If a frenzying warbeast can't reach its charge target (because the charge lane is blocked by terrain, etc) then it will make a failed charge and end its activation. (Locked thread)
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Rules Clarification : Eyeless Sight      (Edit)

  • A model that ignores Stealth must ignore both aspects: both (1) the auto-missing, and (2) the 'not counting as an intervening model' parts.
    • This can have some strange interactions with casters & channelers, if one has Eyeless Sight and one does not. There are examples on the Category:Channeler page.
  • Blind vs Eyeless Sight (Edit)
    • If you put Eyeless Sight on a Blind model, it will still be Blind but it will not suffer the effects as long as it has Eyeless Sight. (Infernal Ruling)
    This means stuff like Hidden Blade will still trigger.
    Also, if the model subsquently loses Eyeless Sight, it will immediately go back to suffering the effects of Blind.
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Rules Clarification : Pathfinder      (Edit)

Rules Clarification : Soulless - None yet. (Edit)

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Rules Clarification : Bond      (Edit)

  • Bonds are ineffective while the model is under your opponent's control. Refer the core rulebook.
  • Bonds & Themes
    • If a warjack/warbeast with a bond is in that caster's battlegroup, they can be taken in any theme force. Refer the core rulebook.
    • This is true even if the caster isn't a full warcaster or warlock (this interaction changed as of 2018.06).
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Rules Clarification : Grievous Wounds      (Edit)

  • GW prevents "repairs" as well as "heals".
  • It does not stop a warlock transferring damage, or stop the wounded model from being able to 'heal' someone else.
  • Does not affect models with the Massive rule.
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Rules Clarification : Snacking      (Edit)

  • You can use Snacking to RFP your target even if you're at full health. (Locked thread)
  • Snacking occurs at boxed, and thus:
    • Doesn't prevent abilities that trigger at disabled (such as Tough, Self-Sacrifice, etc).
    • Might prevent abilities that trigger at boxed, depending on who the active player is and whose model the ability triggered on. Refer the 'Triggers' section (pg 10 of the pdf)
    • Does prevent abilties that trigger at destroyed (such as collecting soul tokens, etc)
  • You can snack friendly models.
  • You may choose where each individual point of healing goes.
  • If you kill multiple models with a single attack (such as trampling over them) then you get to heal once for each model killed.

Rules Clarification : Unyielding - None yet. (Edit)


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Rules Clarification : Shadow Bind , Force Hold, Force Lock, Quagmire, and/or Crawling Chaos     (Edit)

  • Models affected by this ability may still advance 0" and thus abilities that trigger on "ends their movement within ..." or "after this model advances ..." will still trigger (for example Slipstream, Countercharge, etc).
  • Models may still be placed, so abilities like Apparition will still work.
  • The restriction applies to all advances: normal activation, bonus in-activation (like Overtake), and out-of-activation (like Energiser).
  • Shadow Bind only
    • If you manage to free strike a charging model and Shadow Bind it, their charge movement ends because they can no longer advance. At that point, you check whether their charge movement was successful or not.