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CG Logo.png Aurum Adeptus Syvestro

Crucible Guard Warcaster

Syvestro represents the ideal blend of alchemist and soldier. His demeanor is serious, and he does not succumb to fanciful obsessions over every new alchemical discovery, preferring to keep his work pragmatic and focused on advances in military alchemy. Whenever possible, he hones his battlefield capabilities, pushing himself to improve his martial skill through practice bouts with other soldiers, physical trials, and simulated combat between actual engagements. While others rest, he tests his mind by studying and refining formulae long into the night by the light of an alchemical lantern.

Basic Info

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Understanding
the Statblock

Abilities

  • Warcaster - All warcasters come with a stack of standard special rules - most notably being awesome. (Click the link for a full rundown.)
  • Immunity: Corrosion - This model does not suffer corrosion damage, nor the continuous corrosion effect.
  • Immunity:Fire - This model does not suffer fire damage, nor the continuous fire effect.
  • Alchemical Mask - This model does not suffer gas effects. When determining LOS or resolving attacks, this model ignores cloud effects and concealment granted from cloud effects.
  • Field Alchemy - Syvestro can use one of the following special rules at any time during each of his activations.
    • Ephemereal Vitae - Syvestro can cast one spell this activation without spending focus points.
    • Impenetrable Haze - Centre a 4" AOE cloud effect on Syvestro. This AOE remains in play for one round. While Syvestro is completely within the AOE, ranged and magic attacks targeting him from a point of origin greater than 5" away automatically miss. Syvestro is not an intervening model when determining LOS from a model more than 5" away.
    • Super Fuel - Friendly Crucible Guard construct models currently within 5" of Syvestro gain +2 SPD this turn.

Weapons

  • Fulmination Grenade - 6" range, 3" AOE, POW 13 ranged attack
    • Damage Type: Magical - This weapon deals Magical damage. Incorporeal models can be damaged by attacks from sources with this damage type.
    • Decrepitation - This weapon gains an additional die on damage rolls against construct and undead models.
  • Purified Blade - 0.5" reach, P+S 10 melee weapon.
    • Damage Type: Magical - This weapon deals Magical damage. Incorporeal models can be damaged by attacks from sources with this damage type.
    • Blessed - Attacks with this weapon ignore spells & animi that add to the target's DEF or ARM.

Spells

COST RNG AOE POW DUR OFF


Admonition

2 6 - - Upkeep -
Target a model in the caster's battlegroup. If an enemy model advances & ends its movement within 6" of that model, it can immediately advance up to 3" ignoring free strikes, but then Admonition expires.
Explosivo

1 6 - - Upkeep -
Friendly Faction model's ranged weapons gain Damage Type: Magical. If the affected model directly hits and boxes an enemy model with an attack from a ranged weapon, center a 3" AOE on the boxed model, then RFP that model. Models in the AOE are hit and suffer an unboostable POW 8 magical blast damage roll.
Purification

4 SELF Control - - -
All upkeep spells, animi and continuous effects in the caster’s control range immediately expire.
Revive

3 Control - - - -
Return one destroyed Grunt to a friendly Faction unit with one unmarked damage box. Place the returned Grunt in the spellcaster's control range, in formation, and completely within 3" of another model in its unit. The Grunt must forfeit its Combat Action the turn it is put into play.
Stygian Abyss

3 10 - 12 (★) Yes
On a critical hit, the target suffers Blind for one round.
Blind - A model suffering Blind cannot make ranged or magic attacks, suffers -4 MAT and DEF, and cannot run, charge, or make slam or trample power attacks. It must forfeit either its Normal Movement or Combat Action during its next activation. Blind can be shaken.
Transmutation

3 8 - - Upkeep (★)
When targeting an enemy model, this is an offensive spell and requires a magic attack roll. Friendly model/unit gains +2 STR, DEF and pathfinder. Enemy model/unit suffers -2 STR, DEF and lose pathfinder.

Feat : Meta Principle

  1. While in his control range friendly Faction models gain an additional die on attack and damage rolls. Discard one die of your choice.
  2. Additionally, when an enemy model is destroyed while in Syvestro's control range, a friendly Faction model in Syvestro's control range may remove d3 damage points.

Meta Principle last for one turn.

Theme Forces

Thoughts on Aurum Adeptus Syvestro

Aurum Adeptus Syvestro in a nutshell

Syvestro is an ingenious alchemist and a high-ranking member of the Order of the Golden Crucible, the powerful alchemists’ guild that supports and funds the Crucible Guard. He is the only warcaster actively doing alchemy on the battlefield. His core concept is that of alchemical transformation. This manifests as spells like Revive (Returning life), Purification (removing impurities), Transmutation (Increased/decreased abilities), Explosivo (Increased weapon efficiency through science!) etc. He is not a fighter himself. He should not have impressive offensive or defensive stats, he uses science and magic.

More to the point Syvestro is an all round warcaster who helps a bit in almost any battle but brings one of the best spells for countering many enemy builds in the game - Purification. If you're plagued by upkeeps he's the Crucible Guard go-to and as such is frequently brought to tournaments just in case.

Feat Thoughts

The feat boils down to +2 to hit, +1.5 damage for everyone plus a significant amount of healing with either jacks or medium based warriors. It also ups your chances of critical effects, such as Syvestro's own Stygian Abyss.

Syvestro's feat is extraordinarily useful, but can't be relied on as the backbone of his strategy. The goal should be to feat the turn you need to do the most work, and use the upper averages to make sure that work is accomplished. Having warjacks or revived medium based models around to heal is helpful too.

Spell Thoughts

  • Purification - a backbone spell, you need to cast this surprisingly rarely. It messes up his gameplan as he has multiple upkeeps - but really messes some enemies up.
  • Stygian Abyss - a boosted Stygian Abyss on feat turn has a very high chance of blinding enemies. And infantry and especially battle engines hate blind. Outside feat turn its chances are less than 50% so it's not so useful.
  • Transmutation - generally a good buff spell that works on jacks or infantry, it's a little bit expensive as a debuff.
  • Explosivo - Just useful on a shooty model.
  • Admonition - an assassination stopper. Walk out of combat. Or use it on a Toro to counter-charge.
  • Revive is normally considered a poor rate of return on Focus - but it's better on feat turn where you can at least heal up the revided models.

Drawbacks & Downsides

  • Transmutation is an upkeep, meaning you can only either buff ONE of your models/units or ONE of your opponents models/units. You can achieve technically two with spell cycling, but you would miss out on his feat; you have to decide if you want the model/unit that starts the turn with the upkeep on to either gain "signs and portants" from his feat, or to go without the feat so another model/unit can have transmutation under the feat.
  • It's very easy to include way to many models/units in his army that all want Transmutation. Remember you can only give it to 2 at a time (as described above). Don't over commit your points to bring to many models depended on it.
  • Syvestro lacks any kind of direct ARM debuff outside his army, and his only DEF debuff is transmutation. Due to the high demand for that spell, you will have to rely on your army to better buff/debuff models.
  • He has 7 focus, but several of his core spells cost 3+.
  • Be careful not to Admonition out of Impenetrable Haze and get shot!

Tricks & Tips

  • Impenetrable Haze is "Super Stealth". See the #Rules Clarifications section (below) for typical exact differences.


List Building Advice

Strategy

Syvestro is crucible's ultimate toolbox caster, represented by his sweet 7 FOCUS and large array of varied spells and abilities. He can play into gun lines and melee based lists with equal capability, and he particularly enjoys medium based models to revive, then heal back with his feat. The best way to play with Syvestro is to "go with the flow"; whatever form of attack your opponent takes against you, find an opportunity to adjust your strategy to meet or counter that attack. Explosivo to counter incorporeal/infantry swarms, Admonition to escape melee assassins, and his prime spell Transmutation to either bump your melee troops up to snuff or make your opponent's troll champions cry. Whatever the challenge, a good Syvestro list will most likely meet it.

Theme thoughts

While it's possible to do a jack based list with Syvestro, he really prefers having infantry in his list to better benefit from transmutation, so Magnum Opus is more appropriate than Prima Materia.

Army

Warjacks

  • Liberator: Channeling Transmutation or Stygian Abyss can be pretty legit. It's also a good target for Transmutation ifself. With super fuel that's SPD 8, Pathfinder and DEF 17 against living models.
  • Toro: Admonition + Countercharge! Yes, they do stack. Yes, that is awsome. Yes , that is a lot of out-of-activation movement shinanagance your opponent likely won't apprechiate. It's a solid baseline jack, too.
  • Vanguard: A shield guard is always nice. A neat gun on top of it is too.
  • Vulcan: Super fuel makes running for 16" first turn possible, as a colossal. As such, it can really dictate the gamestate.

Units

  • Crucible Guard Assault Troopers appreciate Transmute as it pushes their DEF to okay levels and makes them hit harder. The are also excellent revive targets since the are multi-wound infantry, afterwards they can heal off of his feat.
  • Crucible Guard Rocketmen under Transmutation and Defensive Action their DEF becomes sky high and they won't suffer blast damage. And excellent jamming unit for your slower Assault Troopers.

Solos

  • Aurum Legate Alyce Marc: She ups his focus efficiency with Exaltation or Empower, gives you an out to incorporeal models and let's a model/unit without a gas mask ignore clouds when firing and when she's killed she becomes a countercharger and as such likes Admonition quite a bunch.
  • Gorman di Wulfe, Rogue Alchemist quite likes clouds to hide in in a pinch. Syvestero delivers! Also a source of Rust and a model that contests.
  • Prospero among Vertan Leader and Super Fuel (for which Prospero is also a valid target) you can get quite the number of buffs for your jacks. His Equation and the fact that he can run a jack for his himself further increases his brother's focus efficiency. Just be mindful that Prospero HAS to take a jack with him and Syvestero probably wants to also take a merc unit. Surplus points in Magnum Opus are limited, so consider carefully!
  • Doctor Adolpheus Morely is essential if you want to bring merc units. He also provides heal for your revived units-

Mercenaries

  • Horgenhold Forge Guard with Transmutation and Morley's STR Buff hit like truck.
  • Steelhead Halberdiers really start punching above their weight class after Transmute and Fortemorphic Elixir.
  • If you want to amplify the above two points even more, Ragman is your guy. Don't forget to put clouds in front of him so he can be delivered savely.
  • Rhupert has some useful buffs for Syvestro's forces.

Other

Trivia

Released with the Faction release (2018.06).

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Other Crucible Guard models

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Battlegroup & Similar
Warcasters

Baldwin - Locke - Lukas - Mackay - Syvestro

Warcaster attachments Aurum Legate Alyce Marc (Crucible) - Sylys Wyshnalyrr (Mercenary) - Madelyn Corbeau (Mercenary)
Other Warjack Controllers Prospero (BGC)
Light Liberator - Retaliator - Vanguard
Heavy Suppresor - Toro - Vindicator
Colossal Vulcan
Units, Solos, Battle Engines, & Structures
Units Infantry - Assault Troopers - Combat Alchemists - Dragon's Breath Rocket - Rocketmen - Shock Troopers -
Ranking Officer : Doctor Alejandro Mosby
Solos

CG Mechanik - Gorman di Wulfe, Rogue Alchemist (1) - Gorman the Mad (2) - Hutchuk, Ogrun Bounty Hunter - Prospero - Rocketman Ace - Trancer

Battle Engines Railless Interceptor
Theme Forces
Magnum Opus - Prima Materia
Mercenaries
Refer to Who Works for Whom and/or Category: Crucible Guard Mercenary
This index was last updated: 2019.08

Rules Clarifications

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Rules Clarification:  : Magical Damage      (Edit)
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* The "Damage Type: Magical" is not inherited by "secondary" damage from a weapon. That is, stuff like arcs (Electro Leap) or hazards (Scather). (Infernal Ruling)
  • All spells have "Damage Type: Magical" (refer errata).
    • This is inherited by "immediate" secondary damage (such as Eruption of Spines). (Infernal Ruling)
    • and might be inherited by "lingering" secondary damage (see below).
  • If a spell leaves a template in play that does damage to models that walk around in it, then:
    • if it is not described as a hazard it will do magical damage to models that walk around in it. (Example: Razor Wall)
    • if it is a hazard then it will not do magical damage to models that walk around in it. Instead, it does whatever damage type is specified by the spell description. (Example: Breath of Corruption).
    • (Infernal Ruling)
  • If a weapon/spell includes Magic Damage and another kind of elemental damage it will still damage Incorporeal models. Incorporeal models are not affected by the rule "if an attack does multiple types of damage and a model is immune to at least one it is immune to the entire attack."
    The phrase "immune to non-magical damage" should be interpreted as "immune to damage that doesn't include Damage Type: Magical" (not interpreted as "has immunity to Corrosion and Electricity and Cold and etc.")

Rules Clarification : Decrepitation - None yet. (Edit)

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Rules Clarification : Blessed and/or Creator's Wrath     (Edit)

  • Blessed ignores buffs even if they're not directly on the target. For instance, Haley3's Temporal Distortion spell gives a DEF buff to everyone within 5" ... and Blessed ignores it. (Locked thread)
  • You only ignore the DEF/ARM buff if the spell directly adds to the stat. A spell which instead grants a separate non-spell ability, and the ability gives a DEF/ARM buff, would not be ignored. (Infernal Ruling)
    In this ruling, Blessed does not ignore the DEF from Ashen Veil, because the DEF bonus comes from Concealment, and not the spell itself.
  • If a spell buffs DEF/ARM and [something else] then you ignore the buff but not the [something else].
    • For example, the spell Cloak of Ash grants concealment, and models with concealment gain +2 DEF. You would not ignore this DEF bonus.
    • For example, the spell Death Ward grants +2 ARM and the defender chooses which column suffers damage. You would ignore the ARM bonus, but the defender still picks the column.
  • The Mk3 Blessed icon resembles the old Mk2 Magical Weapon icon. Do not get them confused.
  • This ability only ignores buffs from spells, not buffs from feats (such as Stryker1's Invincibility +5 ARM) or abilities (such as Protective Aura's +2 ARM).


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Rules Clarification:  : Warcaster      (Edit)
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  • General
    • Damage from a feat is neither an attack nor Damage Type: Magical (unless the feat says it is).
    • FOCUS (uppercase) is the stat printed on the warcaster's card. Focus (lowercase) refers to focus points a model currently has.
    • Your CTRL area is double your FOCUS stat, not double your focus points. (Infernal Ruling)
    • Casting spells or using feats is an anytime ability with the added restriction that you can't use them on the same turn you run even before you run.
      • See also the clarifications on Any Time abilities (below).
    • Some warcasters are also Battle Engines and thus follow all the Battle Engine special rules.
      • There is no particular interaction between the Battle Engine rules and the Warcaster rules.
    • Work out all damage modifiers (such as Decapitation doubling the damage that exceeds ARM) before reducing it with the Power Field. (Infernal Ruling)


  • Restrictions on "Any Time" abilities     (Edit)         [Show/Hide]
    • "Any Time" abilities can be used at any time during a model/unit's activation, except:
    1. Units: Before issuing/receiving orders. See step 1 and 2 of the activation sequence, appendix A.
    2. Before any compulsory forfeiture of movement/action. See step 2 of the activation sequence, appendix A.
    3. The model with the Any Time ability has had their activation end "prematurely". By this I mean you resolve anything which includes "its activation ends". Examples include:
      • Running, failing a charge, or failing a slam.
      • Abilities that include "then its activation ends" (such as Reposition and Teleport).
    4. In between declaring your charge target and making your charge movement. (Infernal Ruling)
    5. In between completing your charge movement and determining whether it was a successful charge. (Infernal Ruling)
    6. You're in the middle of moving. (Note: Impact Attacks count as being in the middle of movement).
    7. You're in the middle of an attack. Which also includes effects that occur "after the attack is resolved".
      (Although the attack is "resolved" at Step 11, in terms of using an Any-Time ability the attack is not "finished" until after Step 14. Refer to the first paragraph of Apdx A.)
    8. Your opponent interrupted your activation to trigger one of their own abilities, such as Countercharge.

    • In general you can use "Any Time" abilities while you're knocked down or stationary (except Spells and Feats which specify you can't).
    • If you have a gun with a random ROF, you can use an "Any Time" ability inbetween rolling the number of shots and actually making the first attack. (Infernal Ruling)

    • Units with "Any Time" abilities
    • Even if the ability says "any time during the unit's activation", a model in a unit can't use an Any Time ability if they run, fail a charge, or use an ability like Reposition.
    • Because that model's activation has ended (even if the unit's activation is still ongoing) and you can't use abilities on models that are not active.
    • So, for example:
      • You cannot use a minifeat after the Officer runs. (Infernal Ruling)
      • You cannot use a minifeat after anyone in the unit has begun a Reposition move. (Infernal Ruling)
  • Warcaster/Warlock Cavalry ( Edit )
    • Warcasters/Warlocks can't cast spells or use their feat while resolving Impact Attacks. Because Impact Attacks occur during movement - you can use spells or feat before moving, or after moving, but not during movement.
      • Exception: If your Impact target(s) include your charge target, then your movement has ended (refer rulebook, last paragraph of 'Impact Attacks') and thus you're fine to use "any time" abilities before starting the Impact attacks.


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Rules Clarification : Warcaster Unit or Warlock Unit     (Edit)
This summary is specific to Warcaster/Warlock units. You may also want to check the Warcaster and Warlock pages respectively, for the "regular" rules clarifications.

  • All models in the unit count as part of the battlegroup. So, for instance, Butcher3's argus can be moved via his Energizer spell.
  • Warcaster units can have attachments. They can even attach units (such as the WSC). (Infernal Ruling)
  • The non-caster models are trooper models but are (normally) not Grunt models. Therefore they're not eligible for stuff like Revive.
  • Press Forward Order vs Casting Spells
    • If you're giving an order, it must be done first, before casting any spells or using your feat.
    • If you issue the Press Forward order and your caster does not have LOS to any enemy models, then they cannot declare a charge and instead must run, so therefore can't cast spells. But between the fact that models declare charges one at a time, and spells being an Any Time ability, it actually becomes a bit convoluted. The scenarios are essentially:
      • (A) "issue Press Forward order ► I want to cast a spell ► can I declare a charge ► if no, I must run & I can't cast spells."
      • (B) "issue Press Forward order ► I want to cast a spell ► can I declare a charge ► if yes, I can cast it. ► After casting the spell, do I still have a valid charge target ► if yes, rinse and repeat."
      • (C) "issue Press Forward order ► I want to cast a spell ► can I declare a charge ► if yes, I can cast it. ► After casting the spell, do I still have a valid charge target ► if no, I must now forfeit both my Normal Movement and Combat Action."
    • Refer to (Infernal Ruling) and (Infernal Ruling). However note that as of 29th May 2019 it is getting reviewed (Infernal Checking)
    • Note that, in the above scenarios, the "I want to cast a spell" step is a Any Time ability. So although you may not be able to declare a charge right "now", you could for instance move one of the troopers in the unit to open up LOS.
    • Unfortunately if you have no valid charge targets you cannot cast a spell, even if resolving the spell would give you a valid charge target (such as Energizer or Mage Sight).
  • Steamroller 2018
    • The non-caster models can contest scenario zones & flags.
    • The caster model cannot contest.
    • The caster model can control zones and flags by itself, but:
      • to control a zone, the entire unit remaining in play needs to be in formation.
      • to control a flag, the entire unit remaining in play must be within 4" of the flag.
  • Units Buying Attacks (Edit)
    • If you make attacks with model [A], then start making attacks with model [B], you cannot 'go back' and buy more attacks with [A]. Because:
    • A model can only buy additional attacks during its Combat Action.
    • A model in a unit must complete its Combat Action before the next model starts theirs (with some exceptions, like CMA).
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Rules Clarification : Unit of Warcasters or Warlocks     (Edit)

  • Even though they're warcasters, if they're out of formation they suffer the normal penalties (can't make attacks, actions, spells, etc).
  • They can't upkeep each other's spells.
  • They can only dominate one SteamRoller scenario element at a time.
  • Each warlock/warcaster can have different upkeeps on them if those upkeeps are "target SELF" or "target model". If you cast an upkeep that is "target model/unit", that is the only upkeep any of them can have.
  • Units Buying Attacks (Edit)
    • If you make attacks with model [A], then start making attacks with model [B], you cannot 'go back' and buy more attacks with [A]. Because:
    • A model can only buy additional attacks during its Combat Action.
    • A model in a unit must complete its Combat Action before the next model starts theirs (with some exceptions, like CMA).
  • The Legion Twins
    • Rhyas cannot dominate a zone while out of formation.
    • Rhyas can use the feat while out of formation.
  • Haley3
    • Only Haley Prime is an 'actual' warcaster model, and as such she is the only one that can dominate a scenario element.
    • The echoes can Control/Contest scenarios like a normal unit.
    • Haley Prime can dominate an element even if the echoes are out of formation.
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Rules Clarification : Corrosion      (Edit)

  • A weapon can inflict continuous corrosion without itself being a corrosion damage weapon (for example, the Acidic Touch animus). In this case, the attack can hurt models with Immunity: Corrosion it just won't apply the continuous effect.
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Rules Clarification : Fire      (Edit)

  • Moving into "Shallow water" standard terrain does not cause continuous fire to expire. It's magic fire.
    • You can always use non-standard terrain if you agree with your opponent before the game starts, however.
  • A weapon can inflict continuous fire without itself being a fire damage weapon (for example, the Helios's fists). In this case, the attack can hurt models with Immunity:Fire it just won't apply the continuous effect.
  • In terms of which player's clock is running down during the Maintenance Phase: The active player will roll for expiration of all the continuous effects. Then the inactive player will roll for all the damages of the continuous effects. (Judge Ruling)
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Rules Clarification : Alchemical Mask      (Edit)

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Rules Clarification : Field Alchemy      (Edit)

  • Restrictions on "Any Time" abilities     (Edit)         [Show/Hide]
    • "Any Time" abilities can be used at any time during a model/unit's activation, except:
    1. Units: Before issuing/receiving orders. See step 1 and 2 of the activation sequence, appendix A.
    2. Before any compulsory forfeiture of movement/action. See step 2 of the activation sequence, appendix A.
    3. The model with the Any Time ability has had their activation end "prematurely". By this I mean you resolve anything which includes "its activation ends". Examples include:
      • Running, failing a charge, or failing a slam.
      • Abilities that include "then its activation ends" (such as Reposition and Teleport).
    4. In between declaring your charge target and making your charge movement. (Infernal Ruling)
    5. In between completing your charge movement and determining whether it was a successful charge. (Infernal Ruling)
    6. You're in the middle of moving. (Note: Impact Attacks count as being in the middle of movement).
    7. You're in the middle of an attack. Which also includes effects that occur "after the attack is resolved".
      (Although the attack is "resolved" at Step 11, in terms of using an Any-Time ability the attack is not "finished" until after Step 14. Refer to the first paragraph of Apdx A.)
    8. Your opponent interrupted your activation to trigger one of their own abilities, such as Countercharge.

    • In general you can use "Any Time" abilities while you're knocked down or stationary (except Spells and Feats which specify you can't).
    • If you have a gun with a random ROF, you can use an "Any Time" ability inbetween rolling the number of shots and actually making the first attack. (Infernal Ruling)

    • Units with "Any Time" abilities
    • Even if the ability says "any time during the unit's activation", a model in a unit can't use an Any Time ability if they run, fail a charge, or use an ability like Reposition.
    • Because that model's activation has ended (even if the unit's activation is still ongoing) and you can't use abilities on models that are not active.
    • So, for example:
      • You cannot use a minifeat after the Officer runs. (Infernal Ruling)
      • You cannot use a minifeat after anyone in the unit has begun a Reposition move. (Infernal Ruling)

Rules Clarification : Ephemereal Vitae - None yet. (Edit)

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Rules Clarification : Impenetrable Haze      (Edit)

  • Impenetrable Haze is "Super-Stealth". It functions almost exactly the same as Stealth, except stuff that does ignore Stealth can't ignore Impenetrable Haze.
    • The one point where it differs from Stealth is with sprays. Sprays that target him auto-miss, sprays that target someone behind him get to make an attack roll.
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Rules Clarification : Stealth      (Edit)

  • "Automatically missing" is not the same as "cannot be hit by".
  • For instance, a stealth model can still be the target of an AOE attack and although it auto-misses, if the AOE deviates onto them they will get damaged.

Rules Clarification : Super Fuel - None yet. (Edit)

Rules Clarification : Transmutation - None yet. (Edit)

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Rules Clarification:  : Admonition      (Edit)
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* What does trigger Admonition
    • Admonition triggers off any advance, not just in-activation stuff. You could even trigger your Admonition off an enemy's Admonition!
    • Standing still but changing facing is an advance.
  • What doesn't trigger Admonition
    • Aiming, or forfeiting your movement, is not advancing.
    • If a model doesn't move, doesn't change facing, doesn't aim ... does nothing but skips straight ahead to its Combat Action, this is not an advance. (Infernal Ruling)
    • Being placed (such as Teleport) is not an advance.
    • Involuntary movement (being slammed, thrown, or pushed) is not an advance.
  • You don't have to trigger Admonition the first time an enemy moves nearby - you can save it until it best suits you. (Infernal Ruling)

  • Countercharge vs. Admonition (etc) ( Edit )
    • You can trigger Countercharge during your own activation - if a model with Admonition (or similar) uses it to (try to) move away.
      • You move, they trigger admonition and move, you trigger countercharge off their admonition-move.
    • In this scenario you may boost Countercharge attacks and trigger only-during-activation effects (such as Critical Shred & Sustained Attack) exactly as if you were in your activation (because you are).
    • Also, you can potentially get two charge attacks (one for your normal charge, one for the counter charge).
  • Countercharge plus Admonition
    • If a model has both CC and Admonition, it can trigger both at the same time. A model moves nearby, it admonitions away, then countercharges back in.
  • Battlegroup members (Edit)
    • Spells that target/affect "models in the battlegroup" can also target/will also affect the caster, the caster's unit (if they have one), and the caster's Companion (if they have one).
    • It won't target/affect models which are Attached, though.
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Rules Clarification : Purification      (Edit)

  • Note that this spell will strip all friendly effects as well as enemy.
  • This spell is a "pulse", it only applies to models that are within the area at the time Purification is cast.
  • Against upkeep spells that put a template in to play (such as Rock Wall) then the template must be in the Purification area for you to get rid of it - the position of the caster is irrelevant.
  • Against upkeep spells that are target SELF and range CTRL (such as Fog of War) then the enemy caster must be in the Purification area for you to get rid of it - the position of models affected by the spell is irrelevant.
  • Anti-Upkeep vs a unit (Edit)
    • If an upkeep is on a unit, then all you need to do is make it expire off any member of the unit and the spell will expire from the entire unit.
    • It doesn't matter if the target is in formation or not. (Locked thread)
    • However, if an upkeep is on a single model within a unit (such as Scything Touch) then you need to dispel it off that particular model to make it dispel. (Infernal Ruling)
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Rules Clarification : Revive and/or Raise the Dead and/or Mockery of Life     (Edit)

  • These spells can be used on models with Spell Ward etc, because it doesn't actually 'target' anybody.

Return to Play - Other Units (Edit)

  • "Return" is quite simple if you only return models to your own unit (like Blood-Bound) or only return independent models (like Thagrosh1's feat). But if you're returning models to other units, then click to read more.   [Show/Hide]
    • If you can return multiple troopers at once, they don't all have to be the same unit. Spread the love around.
    • Troopers must return to their original unit. Even if you have two units of the same type (such as two units of Convergence Eradicators) then you can't have 4 die from unit [A] and return them all to unit [B].
    • If your rule is something like "return d3 models to units within CMD range" (Old Witch3) then it is d3 models total, not d3 models to each and every unit.
    • If your rule is something like "spend 1 soul to return 1 Grunt" (Enigma Foundry) then it doesn't matter where the souls came from originally. Think of them like currency, in this case.
    • Troopers are placed sequentially, and you can leap frog the "within 3" of another model in its unit" requirement.
    • You can Return models even after a unit is reduced to just Attachments (Weapon or Command)
      • If your Return ability lets you return a Leader or Officer model, then they will immediately become the unit commander and redefine the "in formation" bubble.
      • If your Return ability only allows Grunts, then the Grunt will not be field promoted when he arrives.
        This means that, in the unusual scenario where the Leader model has different wargear to the Grunts (such as Cygnar Stormguard), then that wargear is effectively 'lost'.
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Rules Clarification : Explosivo      (Edit)

  • The damage from the AOE is considered to be damage from the model that has Explosivo, but it is not damage from the ranged attack. (It is damage from the triggered ability called "Explosivo")
    It doesn't benefit from stuff that modifies a weapon's damage roll, such as Sniper. (Locked thread)
    It does benefit from stuff that modifies a model's damage, such as Prey. (Infernal Ruling)
  • If you put Explosivo on a weapon that directly hits multiple enemies, then all models boxed by the initial attack will turn into 3" AOEs. Clusterbombs, away!
    • Note that normal AOE weapons only directly hit the original target. To get this clusterbomb effect you need something like a spray attack, Siege's Ground Pounder attack, or Thunderhead's Energy Pulse attack.
  • The AOE damage is just damage, it's not considered to be an attack.
  • Not considered an attack / Pure damage roll (Edit)   [Show/Hide]
    • Some attacks create a "secondary damage" roll that is explicitly "not considered an attack" (such as Electro Leap); while other abilities just tell you to make a "pure damage" roll without mentioning attacks at all (such as Vent Steam). In terms of interacting with 'attack triggers' (such as Vengeance) "secondary damage" and "pure damage" work the same.
    • When one attack triggers a secondary damage roll, the original attack and damage is definitely an attack and triggers stuff normally.
    • Secondary/pure damage is not an attack, so doesn't trigger stuff like Vengeance.
    • Secondary/pure damage (normally) doesn't actually hit the model(s) it damages, so doesn't trigger stuff like Shock Field. (A few of them do specify they hit, though, like Warhead.)
    • Secondary/pure damage is not from an attack, but it is damage from the original model. This has two implications:
      1. It's not an attack from a weapon so:
        • it won't gain damage buffs from the weapon (such as Poison).
        • it won't gain any Damage Types from the weapon. (Infernal Ruling)
      2. It is a damage roll from a model so:
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Rules Clarification : Stygian Abyss      (Edit)

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Rules Clarification : Blind      (Edit)

  • Blind prevents magic attacks. However spell-casters, spell slaves, etc can still cast non-offensive spells.